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Old 03-07-2021, 12:04 AM   Topic Starter
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So what do we think of Buffalo and Cleveland.

So we’ve had time to come to terms with the Super Bowl and 2020 in general.

Plus I think we’ve hashed through what actually happened in the Super Bowl and know pretty much where we’re at in the hierarchy of things.

So I’m interested to know what we all think of Cleveland and Buffalo.

Personally, I understand there were some trolls for Buffalo that were annoying but I didn’t have trouble tuning them out. I’m kind of rooting for Cleveland. I know we can find reasons to hate everybody and I’m a pretty much **** every non-chief out there, but I find myself dragging my feet on hating these guys.

I’m so sick of the same assbag franchises in the AFC playoffs. It was so goddamned refreshing that it wasn’t Indy, brother****ing cheatriot, Steelers or Ravens. I’d much rather roll through more teams consistently (except Donk - **** Donk Forever) while we dominate. But if it’s these guys for awhile as long as we dominate I guess I’m good. No real bad apples, I mean yeah Buffalo got chippy as we ripped their souls out, but I’ll take that over cheap shots on Mahomes from Judon or whatever.

Where are you guys at?
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Old 03-07-2021, 12:07 AM   #2
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Neither have Patrick Mahomes. Both are ****ed and will spend the next 10 years building to beat KC in the regular season.
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Old 03-07-2021, 12:10 AM   #3
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I think we're going back to the SB
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Old 03-07-2021, 12:12 AM   #4
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They are like what we used to be before we had Pat.

It’s cute. They think they can win. It’s just so super adorable.
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Old 03-07-2021, 12:25 AM   #5
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I know I'm in the minority here-

but if we didn't convert on fourth down in the Cleveland game, we were going to lose.

I think Andy thought that too, and that's why he went for it.

Ballsiest call I can remember to be honest. I couldn't believe he did it.

But Baker would've drove them down and beat us.

I don't feel that way about Allen.

Yeah, I know, everyone here hates Mayfield.

Cleveland will be a contender. The Bills will too, but I don't see the same thing with Allen.

It doesn't matter, we have Mahomes and as long as Veach competently puts a team around him, we'll win most of them.
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Old 03-07-2021, 02:07 AM   #6
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I know I'm in the minority here-

but if we didn't convert on fourth down in the Cleveland game, we were going to lose.

I think Andy thought that too, and that's why he went for it.

Ballsiest call I can remember to be honest. I couldn't believe he did it.

But Baker would've drove them down and beat us.

I don't feel that way about Allen.

Yeah, I know, everyone here hates Mayfield.

Cleveland will be a contender. The Bills will too, but I don't see the same thing with Allen.

It doesn't matter, we have Mahomes and as long as Veach competently puts a team around him, we'll win most of them.
Baker is going to be on his 5th year option. Will you still feel the same at 45M?
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Old 03-07-2021, 09:27 AM   #7
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Baker is going to be on his 5th year option. Will you still feel the same at 45M?
You think he's going to get $45m per year?

I don't think so.

Mahomes is head and shoulders better than any of them.

Doesn't mean they're not good players, or QB's to build a team around.
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Old 03-07-2021, 09:37 AM   #8
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It won't be long and the rest of the afc NFLs fan base is gonna start getting sore over the Chiefs ALWAYS being in it.
I'll take it but it's coming, lol.
Yeah, I give no ****s about that. I was just looking to see where the pulse of the planet was after the sting of the Bowl wore off. Maybe my hatred of the regular contenders for 20 years in the AFC is irrational? I mean of course it's irrational, maybe unwarranted is what I'm looking for.

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You think he's going to get $45m per year?

I don't think so.

Mahomes is head and shoulders better than any of them.

Doesn't mean they're not good players, or QB's to build a team around.
I do. And like everybody else coming up for contracts, he won't be worth it.

Dak wants to be "right behind" mahomes, and if mahomes AAV is 50 (roughly) 45 is going to be 90%, which is a pretty good chunk behind.

That's the folley of the current setup, Mediocre QBs are vastly overpaid compared to the greats. Just like when Alex Smith made in the neighborhood of what Rodgers did for a year or two until Rodgers came up again. That's what we had and that's what he costs.

Maybe you can get that number to 40 if you guarantee more than Mahomes did, but they're still going to overpay. Nature of the beast.

We'll see how it plays out, but you know Baker THINKS he's in Mahomes stratosphere. He's been a remarkably good teammate IMO, but you know he does.
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Old 03-07-2021, 06:09 AM   #9
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I know I'm in the minority here-

but if we didn't convert on fourth down in the Cleveland game, we were going to lose.

I think Andy thought that too, and that's why he went for it.

Ballsiest call I can remember to be honest. I couldn't believe he did it.

But Baker would've drove them down and beat us.

I don't feel that way about Allen.

Yeah, I know, everyone here hates Mayfield.

Cleveland will be a contender. The Bills will too, but I don't see the same thing with Allen.

It doesn't matter, we have Mahomes and as long as Veach competently puts a team around him, we'll win most of them.
Slurping the Browns again, huh? Took Pat getting hurt to not completely blow then out. Frauds.
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Old 03-07-2021, 09:25 AM   #10
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Slurping the Browns again, huh? Took Pat getting hurt to not completely blow then out. Frauds.
Mahomes is in an entirely different league than any of them.
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Old 03-07-2021, 12:35 AM   #11
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Cleveland is legit.

I think we are seeing a major shift in the hierarchy of the AFC.

Good thing, too....Will keep the Chiefs motivated to remain a top tier team, if Pat's contract doesn't already do that.
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Old 03-07-2021, 12:40 AM   #12
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Have another draft like last year and we’ll be back in the SB barring awful luck with injuries.

It’s that simple.
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Old 03-07-2021, 12:50 AM   #13
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Have another draft like last year and we’ll be back in the SB barring awful luck with injuries.

It’s that simple.
No doubt.

There's Mahomes...


and then there's the rest moving forward.

but the balance of power in the league has shifted.

Cleveland and Buffalo will be contenders moving forward.
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Old 03-07-2021, 12:50 AM   #14
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I was always so slow to buy into any Chiefs team prior to the 2018 AFCCG, I have a really hard time not just seeing the Browns and Bills in that group of 'everyone else' until they prove otherwise..... and at the moment, that means beating the Chiefs in the playoffs. And both have a ways to go in that regard.

It was nice to see some new teams... granted, in the long run I'd prefer a great rivalry or two to emerge (of course, with the Chiefs winning the vast majority of epic playoff games) as opposed to new teams every few years.
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Old 03-07-2021, 12:51 AM   #15
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