Chiefs Orlando Brown Jr's opinion on Athletic Testing vs Blocking Technique

**Tribal Warfare** · 05:47 PM

While my game is played by manipulating angles and understanding where the QB will be in his drop, some get to a spot and react from there. The reason that the numbers in the drills are so “valuable” is because they believe you have to be a “athlete” to react..
— Orlando Brown Jr. (@ZEUS__78) February 26, 2019

When drafting a OL you’d think because he bends and moves a certain way he’d be successful but without the understanding of your abilities you will get lost in the shuffle. I’m not the best bender but I’ve got long arms. I understand that if a defender goes to dip
— Orlando Brown Jr. (@ZEUS__78) February 26, 2019

week many evaluators will write off several OL because of his “lack of athleticism”. I’m here to tell you to pay attention to his film, figure out how he manipulates his blocks based off his tools, and don’t count him out cause he isn’t a Super athlete.
— Orlando Brown Jr. (@ZEUS__78) February 26, 2019

htismaqe · 04-26-2021, 10:06 AM

Ironically, Brown's analysis suggest that many of the guys I did NOT like at #31 would have been reasonable choices after all.

Had we not traded for Brown, that is.

KCUnited · 04-26-2021, 10:19 AM

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**BigRedChief** · 05-18-2021, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Ironically, Brown's analysis suggest that many of the guys I did NOT like at #31 would have been reasonable choices after all.

Had we not traded for Brown, that is.

But........... Would they been able to play at Browns level this year? We only have 2 years left with this original core group. This is the year to win a SB. This is our overall strongest team we have had in the Mahomes era.

htismaqe · 05-18-2021, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

But........... Would they been able to play at Browns level this year? We only have 2 years left with this original core group. This is the year to win a SB. This is our overall strongest team we have had in the Mahomes era.

Yeah probably not.

I was just commenting that Brown wasn't nearly as critical of the "rookie" approach as I was, which I found ironic because I'm over the moon about the trade.

**wazu** · 04-26-2021, 10:23 AM

That's a pretty damn good case Orlando made for himself. Wouldn't really matter if he didn't go out after that and back it up on the field, but he did. Really excited to have this guy.

Dante84 · 04-26-2021, 10:33 AM

Prior to the trade, I had made the (incorrect) assumption that his lack of bend and the resulting top-heavy reach would set him up to get dominated on low-man, quick-bending, high-speed edge rushers; especially in a more pass-heavy offense.

That said, after the trade, I dug in a little more and heard him talk about that specific facet of his game. He is keenly aware that he has the long-arm reach, but he also explained that knows how to counter with his balance so that he doesn't get smoked because of it. It has to do with his weight and his frame coupled with his long arms.

So basically, what some might consider a weakness or a shortcoming used as a crutch to make up for lack of athleticism, he is simply exploiting his body's ability to cheat that area of the game. And the stats (sacks/pressures) and pro-bowl appearances seem to back that up.

If that translates to our offense, and he continues to refine his game, we could be looking at a hall-of-fame duo with him and Mahomes for the next 10 years.

htismaqe · 04-26-2021, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84

Prior to the trade, I had made the (incorrect) assumption that his lack of bend and the resulting top-heavy reach would set him up to get dominated on low-man, quick-bending, high-speed edge rushers; especially in a more pass-heavy offense.

That said, after the trade, I dug in a little more and heard him talk about that specific facet of his game. He is keenly aware that he has the long-arm reach, but he also explained that knows how to counter with his balance so that he doesn't get smoked because of it. It has to do with his weight and his frame coupled with his long arms.

So basically, what some might consider a weakness or a shortcoming used as a crutch to make up for lack of athleticism, he is simply exploiting his body's ability to cheat that area of the game. And the stats (sacks/pressures) and pro-bowl appearances seem to back that up.

If that translates to our offense, and he continues to refine his game, we could be looking at a hall-of-fame duo with him and Mahomes for the next 10 years.

Yep.

We got a guy that is a physical specimen in a certain mold, with all the inherent strengths and weaknesses that come with it.

What we also got, however, appears to be an offensive tackle that approaches the game like a QB. A guy that approaches the game cerebrally and works to refine technique and react to the game as it changes around him.

I'm getting super excited to see him play with Mahomes. Like I said in the other thread, I think this could end up being a pivotal moment in the Andy Reid era.

I'm super, super high on this trade.

TLO · 04-26-2021, 10:35 AM

Can we give him a stupid ass nickname like "Silverback"?

How about Gorilla Glue?
Gorilla Joe?
Long Schlong Silvers?
The Great Wall of Brown?

**Baby Lee** · 04-26-2021, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TLO

Can we give him a stupid ass nickname like "Silverback"?

How about Gorilla Glue?
Gorilla Joe?
Long Schlong Silvers?
The Great Wall of Brown?

Since his dad was Zeus, . . .

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htismaqe · 04-26-2021, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Since his dad was Zeus, maybe we could start the Klumps' 'Heracles!! Heracles!!' chant for him. . .

VAChief · 04-26-2021, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Since his dad was Zeus, . . .

via GIPHY

He has a bit of an "Urkel" look to him from the neck up so maybe...

Urkelese!

Valiant · 04-26-2021, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by VAChief

He has a bit of an "Urkel" look to him from the neck up so maybe...

Urkelese!

Does he have a fox tail in that picture?

**BigRedChief** · 05-18-2021, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Valiant

Does he have a fox tail in that picture?

When you're that big of a man, you can pull off a fox tail accessory.

Fansy the Famous Bard · 04-26-2021, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TLO

Can we give him a stupid ass nickname like "Silverback"?

How about Gorilla Glue?
Gorilla Joe?
Long Schlong Silvers?
The Great Wall of Brown?

The Artist

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htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $8179900	Ironically, Brown's analysis suggest that many of the guys I did NOT like at #31 would have been reasonable choices after all. Had we not traded for Brown, that is.
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Dante84 Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ATX & OPKS Casino cash: $-1848004 VARSITY	Prior to the trade, I had made the (incorrect) assumption that his lack of bend and the resulting top-heavy reach would set him up to get dominated on low-man, quick-bending, high-speed edge rushers; especially in a more pass-heavy offense. That said, after the trade, I dug in a little more and heard him talk about that specific facet of his game. He is keenly aware that he has the long-arm reach, but he also explained that knows how to counter with his balance so that he doesn't get smoked because of it. It has to do with his weight and his frame coupled with his long arms. So basically, what some might consider a weakness or a shortcoming used as a crutch to make up for lack of athleticism, he is simply exploiting his body's ability to cheat that area of the game. And the stats (sacks/pressures) and pro-bowl appearances seem to back that up. If that translates to our offense, and he continues to refine his game, we could be looking at a hall-of-fame duo with him and Mahomes for the next 10 years. __________________ ..
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