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Old 10-11-2021, 09:20 AM   Topic Starter
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I find it hard to believe that this is our offenses kryptonite. Do we really not have an answer for it? Why is our offensive playcalling so vanilla?

It's not that I'm impatient for the deep ball, but plenty of other teams seem to find ways to punish Cover 2 and force them to play up further, and we're the only team that somehow can't.

I hardly see us use motion to our advantage like we used to. I hardly see any sort of creative playcalling unless it's some dumb trick play or shovel pass at the goal line.

You'd think running the ball into Cover 2 would gash defenses, but apparently we ****ing suck at that too. And this is all we're gonna see the rest of the season. Deep Cover 2, stop the big play, hope our offense makes mistakes and gets off the field. And so far, it's working. Do we seriously not have any answers for this?
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Old 10-11-2021, 09:21 AM   #2
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Offense is stale, EB isn’t helping shit with his cute plays.
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Old 10-11-2021, 09:23 AM   #3
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As for running the ball, we *should* be able to take advantage. In the first half I saw HUGE holes open up that should have gone for runs of 10-15, but CEH is so slow that it goes for 4. It's like he sticks to any defender that touches him. It's like he only has one speed. He'll dance, dance, then go his one speed and get tackled by the first defender. He has no burst and no tackle breaking. Maybe Williams or McKinnon can start taking advantage of those holes.
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Cover 2 is going to shut down a lot of offenses if you can't block.

We're just fine against it when we can block.
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Old 10-11-2021, 09:28 AM   #6
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Cover 2 is going to shut down a lot of offenses if you can't block.

We're just fine against it when we can block.
Just to play devil's advocate, couldn't you say that about any offense? Give them time in the pocket, and they'll find the open man?
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Just to play devil's advocate, couldn't you say that about any offense? Give them time in the pocket, and they'll find the open man?
No. Because Cover 2 is dropping more players into coverage.

It takes longer for routes to develop against Cover 2.

Against other defenses if there is pressure someone may be open a lot quicker.
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No. Because Cover 2 is dropping more players into coverage.

It takes longer for routes to develop against Cover 2.

Against other defenses if there is pressure someone may be open a lot quicker.
Well if that's the case, our guy's really just cannot get open. There were lots of moments last night where Mahomes had all day in the pocket and just couldn't find anyone. Credit to Buffalo, but it's not the first time this season where Mahomes has held on to the ball forever cause there just wasn't anyone there.
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No. Because Cover 2 is dropping more players into coverage.

It takes longer for routes to develop against Cover 2.

Against other defenses if there is pressure someone may be open a lot quicker.
Traditionally, there's usually space in the seams for TEs to work the middle because the safeties are in that 2 shell.

You'd think Reid and EB would've tried to exploit that more with Kelce...
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Traditionally, there's usually space in the seams for TEs to work the middle because the safeties are in that 2 shell.

You'd think Reid and EB would've tried to exploit that more with Kelce...
Just saw a break down where the Bills came out in Cover 2 and one of the safeties shifted down to take away the middle of the field.

Mahomes needed one more second in the pocket to let one rip to take advantage of the safety coming down, but pressure got there.

The Bills did an amazing job on defense.
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Traditionally, there's usually space in the seams for TEs to work the middle because the safeties are in that 2 shell.

You'd think Reid and EB would've tried to exploit that more with Kelce...
I’m not saying this is wrong and that what I am about to say is a full explanation but, how many times do we see defenders take Kelce out of the play by holding him and not getting flagged for it?
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EB needs to go. He's 1 season past his expiration date. This offense has been struggling with the same shit since last year. New OL, same problem.
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EB needs to go. He's 1 season past his expiration date. This offense has been struggling with the same shit since last year. New OL, same problem.
Yup,

No honest to god commit to the run game (seriously no feel for it either when we are killing people) and for what ever reason we run these cute plays way to much.
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EB needs to go. He's 1 season past his expiration date. This offense has been struggling with the same shit since last year. New OL, same problem.
That is another situation in our perfect storm. Sucks because he shouldn't be fired. He does genuinely deserve an opportunity somewhere and that's why the Chiefs are reluctant to get rid of him. But EB is not an innovator and that's what we need in the room right now. Promote Kafka and bring in an assistant coach or two who is going to study the hell out of college and pro offenses to find new wrinkles. Hell, bring in a veteran special consultant.
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That is another situation in our perfect storm. Sucks because he shouldn't be fired. He does genuinely deserve an opportunity somewhere and that's why the Chiefs are reluctant to get rid of him. But EB is not an innovator and that's what we need in the room right now. Promote Kafka and bring in an assistant coach or two who is going to study the hell out of college and pro offenses to find new wrinkles. Hell, bring in a veteran special consultant.
What opportunity DOES he deserve, really?

With his spotty personal background and not being an innovator as you stated, he's probably really topped out his potential, and THAT'S why he didn't get an offer.

It's possible he's just like Nagy and Pedersen, and Pedersen only held on in Philly as long as he did because he caught lightning in a bottle with Big Dick Nick when they won the SB. It's even possible that he's not as good as those guys, because being on a staff with Andy Reid and Mike Kafka while Patrick Mahomes is the starting QB can probably cover up an awful lot of deficiencies for awhile. But in the NFL, your deficiencies will always get exposed eventually.
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