George Karlaftis

[kccrow]

I can't stop fixating on this guy in the first round. The more I see him in the early 20's in mocks, the more I want KC to make the deal to go get this kid.

He reminds me of Ryan Kerrigan and Justin Smith. If he's somewhere in between, he'd be well worth a 20-ish pick. I just like his game. Great power in his punch. Good hand usage. Alot of moves but a staggering bull rush. Great feet. Excellent burst off the snap. What he doesn't have is great bend and agility which negates his speed rush.

But those traits, the ones involving power and speed-to-power, those win in the NFL. I don't care about his 40 time. He ran faster than the Bosa brothers. It's fine. He has elite vertical and broad jumps and a respectable bench press. I just imagine the day he gets stronger, and he will. If he learns to use better power rush technique, he's going to be very solid.

I think a lot of the lack of sacks this past year was the volume of double-teams and no other real threat on Purdue's defense. You watch his games though and he's putting tackles in the dirt. He's getting hits on the QB. He had a solid win rate as a pass rusher.

I love this guy as a SDE prospect. I want him to be a Chief. If you can go out and get a Sam Williams in the 2nd to pair with this guy as a bendier, more athletic WDE, I think you'll have an incredible pair of bookends for the foreseeable future.

So, am I missing something? Do I not see some fatal flaw?

[The Franchise]

He’s Breeland Speaks 2.0. /s

[Tribal Warfare]

Why? All his main accolades/success are against lightweight OTs he pushes those guys around, but when that doesn't work he's neutralized very very low ceiling could be good but not a gamewrecker

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Why? All his main accolades/success are against lightweight OTs he pushes those guys around, but when that doesn't work he's neutralized very very low ceiling could be good but not a gamewrecker

This just isn't true. Have you actually watched him play?

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

This just isn't true. Have you actually watched him play?

Yes, I wanted to get excited about his play considering the media reverence but his moves are sheer power to the QB, pushing lighter guys like they're JV. When he deals with OTs who prepared for it like technicians who can get him off balanced are "punch" when he's out of the stance not so great. Ultimately, I was hoping to the maniacal explosion and effort that Jared had, or having picture perfect technique who plays faster than expected.

I was looking for it but left unimpressed if you want a game changer.

[DJ's left nut]

Guys with higher floors and lower ceilings get slept on a bit by the draft nerds. I'm as guilty of it as anyone.

But you're spot on in how he'd fit with someone like Williams or even Ojabo long-term.

He's a set and forget SDE and a guy who you can just write into the lineup alongside Clark from Day 1. Then as Ojabo or Williams get up to speed, you have a really nice strength/speed pairing.

And like I said, I'd go after Jones/Wyatt to complement the whole thing. If you could get Karlaftis/Jones/Williams with the first 3 selections, you'd absolutely murder this draft.

But my philosophical opposition to trading up remains pretty strong this year.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Guys with higher floors and lower ceilings get slept on a bit by the draft nerds. I'm as guilty of it as anyone.

But you're spot on in how he'd fit with someone like Williams or even Ojabo long-term.

He's a set and forget SDE and a guy who you can just write into the lineup alongside Clark from Day 1. Then as Ojabo or Williams get up to speed, you have a really nice strength/speed pairing.

And like I said, I'd go after Jones/Wyatt to complement the whole thing. If you could get Karlaftis/Jones/Williams with the first 3 selections, you'd absolutely murder this draft.

But my philosophical opposition to trading up remains pretty strong this year.

Agreed. Not a fan of trading up but if he's there at 29, I'd absolutely love to take him.

[staylor26]

Karlaftis and Ojabo are my dream picks at 29 and 30.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Karlaftis and Ojabo are my dream picks at 29 and 30.

It's funny, but if you kick around the mock drafts, you'll find the Chiefs have so much damn draft capital they can go after 3 DL and 3 WRs and still be able to get a DB and LB that can probably play early in the season. And that's without doing any trade-downs to get additional day 2 capital.

[bsp4444]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It's funny, but if you kick around the mock drafts, you'll find the Chiefs have so much damn draft capital they can go after 3 DL and 3 WRs and still be able to get a DB and LB that can probably play early in the season. And that's without doing any trade-downs to get additional day 2 capital.

That's a lot of contracts due at once. I wonder if we do trade down, do we add some picks next year to sort of spread this out.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by bsp4444

That's a lot of contracts due at once. I wonder if we do trade down, do we add some picks next year to sort of spread this out.

They won't all hit.

That's why you use all the picks.

Of the 8 picks in the first 4 rounds, if 4 of those guys earn a 2nd contract, you're in REALLY good shape. And hell, if more of them do, you got 4 years of dirt-cheap production out of them and now have trade assets going into year 4 or at least someone that can help you with comp pick calculations.

It's not something worth worrying about when you have about 1/2 a roster under contract for the coming season.

[Chargem]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

I'm still torn between Karlaftis and Cam Thomas.

Why not both?

Originally Posted by bsp4444

That's a lot of contracts due at once. I wonder if we do trade down, do we add some picks next year to sort of spread this out.

Or just trade some of the players in the last year of the deal, 3-4 years from now, for more assets. Lots of options.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by bsp4444

That's a lot of contracts due at once. I wonder if we do trade down, do we add some picks next year to sort of spread this out.

All the more reason to keep 2 picks in the 1st so we have a couple 5th year options.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Karlaftis and Ojabo are my dream picks at 29 and 30.

I’m really warming up to this plan. Even the small trade up to 21 to 23 range to get Karliftis. And then Ojabo with the 29th or 30th pick that is left over. Clark is going to play. Let Ojabo get healthy and work into the lineup in the last half of the season. I like it a lot.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Coogs

I’m really warming up to this plan. Even the small trade up to 21 to 23 range to get Karliftis. And then Ojabo with the 29th or 30th pick that is left over. Clark is going to play. Let Ojabo get healthy and work into the lineup in the last half of the season. I like it a lot.

I’m just sick of the dog shit we’ve had at EDGE.

Double dip early and get it over with, just like the OL last year.