Chris Jones, PFF DPOY

[SupDock]

♦️ 14 more pressures than the next DI
♦️ Only DI with over a 20% pass-rush win rate
♦️ 92.0 PFF Grade

PFF's Defensive Player of the Year: Chris Jones pic.twitter.com/ht54lB7UOI

— PFF (@PFF) January 12, 2023

[Skyy God]

No one tell his agent.

[ptlyon]

Congrats. Free all expense paid trip to Belize!

[Skyy God]

Originally Posted by ptlyon

Congrats. Free all expense paid trip to Belize!

Ass, cash or grass.

There are no free trips.

[Easy 6]

I like this honor even better

Made it onto the first ever player voted All-Pro team

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-all-pro-team/

[DJ's left nut]

I mean it's really just him, Parsons or Nick Bosa, right?

Am I missing anyone?

Really feels like he oughta win it but I'm secretly hoping it's Parsons so we can maybe avoid giving him Aaron Donald money...

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I mean it's really just him, Parsons or Nick Bosa, right?

Am I missing anyone?

Really feels like he oughta win it but I'm secretly hoping it's Parsons so we can maybe avoid giving him Aaron Donald money...

The guy signed for less than Frank Clark after Frank had sucked shit and then he signed after Buckner and took less than him. He wants an extension, but I don't think he's going to demand being the highest paid defender in history. Aaron Donald is the only the defender to have over $30 mil in AAV. No way he demands that. I could see him asking for $26-$28 mil a year which puts him at top 3.

Maybe see if he would take less AAV for an extra year. I'd like for him to retire as a Chief and DT's age pretty well and Chris has stayed pretty healthy overall.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

The guy signed for less than Frank Clark after Frank had sucked shit and then he signed after Buckner and took less than him. He wants an extension, but I don't think he's going to demand being the highest paid defender in history. Aaron Donald is the only the defender to have over $30 mil in AAV. No way he demands that. I could see him asking for $26-$28 mil a year which puts him at top 3.

Maybe see if he would take less AAV for an extra year. I'd like for him to retire as a Chief and DT's age pretty well and Chris has stayed pretty healthy overall.

He didn't really take less than Buckner.

Oh sure, that phony AAV stuff says he did, but AAV isn't terribly relevant when discussing contract 'value'.

Jones took less in overall AAV but he also got more in practical guarantees. A LOT more, in fact. Jones deal had about $60 million in practical guarantees as opposed to Buckners at about $45 million.

And at the time both guys signed their deals, they were seen in a virtually identical light.

Buckner set the market by signing first, Jones signed a deal at market that was structured a little differently than Buckner's was and traded a little in top end for a lot in additional guarantees.

Look at it this way - at the end of this season the Colts can cut Buckner and have paid him 3 years, $56 million with ZERO in dead cap money. Meanwhile if the Chiefs cut Jones this offseason they'll have paid him $61 million AND still carry $7 million in dead cap.

Jones didn't do anyone a 'solid' - he traded a few million bucks at the back end of the deal for a few million bucks in the first 3 years of the deal. In the world of NFL contracts, Jones has a more valuable deal than Buckner got. And in 2020 Jones was not an obviously better player than Buckner.

Jones isn't gonna take a haircut here, fellas. He didn't before and he's unlikely to do so this time around.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

He didn't really take less than Buckner.

Oh sure, that phony AAV stuff says he did, but AAV isn't terribly relevant when discussing contract 'value'.

Jones took less in overall AAV but he also got more in practical guarantees. A LOT more, in fact. Jones deal had about $60 million in practical guarantees as opposed to Buckners at about $45 million.

And at the time both guys signed their deals, they were seen in a virtually identical light.

Buckner set the market by signing first, Jones signed a deal at market that was structured a little differently than Buckner's was and traded a little in top end for a lot in additional guarantees.

Look at it this way - at the end of this season the Colts can cut Buckner and have paid him 3 years, $56 million with ZERO in dead cap money. Meanwhile if the Chiefs cut Jones this offseason they'll have paid him $61 million AND still carry $7 million in dead cap.

Jones didn't do anyone a 'solid' - he traded a few million bucks at the back end of the deal for a few million bucks in the first 3 years of the deal. In the world of NFL contracts, Jones has a more valuable deal than Buckner got. And in 2020 Jones was not an obviously better player than Buckner.

Jones isn't gonna take a haircut here, fellas. He didn't before and he's unlikely to do so this time around.

Guess I should have looked a little more into it. Well hopefully he'd be fine with taking less than Donald.

[Hydrae]

So, we may have both the MVP and the DPOY on this team? Excellent!

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Originally Posted by Hydrae

So, we may have both the MVP and the DPOY on this team? Excellent!

Seriously, it would be incredible.

Bosa did have 18.5 sacks, hard to see him not winning it especially with the media being unable to stop gargling the balls of everything involving the 49ers. Jones will certainly get some votes, though.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Imagine if Mahomes wins MVP and Jones wins DPOTY. Has that ever happened in history?

God it would be awesome.

[dirk digler]

I am kind of shocked. I thought Bosa was a lock\no brainer

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I am kind of shocked. I thought Bosa was a lock\no brainer

This isn't the 'real' DPOY.

It's the math DPOY.

I feel like Bosa's probably in the driver's seat as well. 18.5 sacks is an easy sell and being the most important player on a 13-4 squad is going to stand out more than being the 3rd most important player on a 14-3 squad.

But Jones has a better argument for it than many pundits would have you believe.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

This isn't the 'real' DPOY.

It's the math DPOY.

I understand figured that was a lock too as well as any other publication giving out awards. Bosa dominated this year.