3rd/4th and 1 Conversions

[Shoes]

A lot was made in Sunday's AFC Championship game about the Chiefs inability to convert in 3rd & 1 and 4th & 1 scenarios. If I remember correctly Romo said the Chiefs are hovering around 50% in conversion percentage in these short yardage situations. The Chiefs are 2nd in the NFL at 48.7% in all 3rd down scenarios which makes it seem bizarre that Mahomes & company are not converting 3rd/4th and short with more regularity.

So I turn to the prolific armchair offensive coordinators of Chiefsplanet to answer these questions:

1. Why do you think the Chiefs struggle in these situations?
2. Any adjustments you would make vs Philly in the Superbowl?
3. Gun to your head, 4th & 1 in the Superbowl, what are you dialing up?

[raybec 4]

QB sneak. They don't believe the Chiefs will do it. It will work.

[el borracho]

Pitch to Pacheco for an outside run. Pacheco's speed and anger against a lot less congestion.

[treeguy27]

Originally Posted by el borracho

Pitch to Pacheco for an outside run. Pacheco's speed and anger against a lot less congestion.

The problem is Pacheco seldom seems to be on the field on 3rd and 1. Mckinnon typically gets the nod. I've been yelling for Pacheco more on short yardage.

[Hayneplane]

Originally Posted by treeguy27

The problem is Pacheco seldom seems to be on the field on 3rd and 1. Mckinnon typically gets the nod. I've been yelling for Pacheco more on short yardage.

Why not have both out there in a personnel package with 2 RB with Jet doing a chip block and the receiver option and Pacheco as the rusher option

[HemiEd]

Lots of good points in this thread and I brought up the QB sneak in DenverChiefs thread last week.

Mahomes injury sustained earlier in his career has pretty much kept Andy from running the play.

But, but harumph, nobody has mentioned the loss of the Shermanator! This team misses number 42 Anthony Sherman! Michael Burton, so far, just is not the same.

[St. Patty's Fire]

Originally Posted by el borracho

Pitch to Pacheco for an outside run. Pacheco's speed and anger against a lot less congestion.

personally i hate pitching it in this situation. imo too much potential to go backwards

we should just sneak it. qbs have done it for decades w no ill effects. on fluke accident shouldnt prevent us from running it ever again.

[KCJake]

Originally Posted by el borracho

Pitch to Pacheco for an outside run. Pacheco's speed and anger against a lot less congestion.

I feel like this is what we do and it goes for a loss of 3 every time.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by KCJake

I feel like this is what we do and it goes for a loss of 3 every time.

We ran this play on the 4th and short in the SB and the play design was never on tape. It was a 10+ yard gain.

I believe Andy has a play like this in the backlog for January

[Rain Man]

A play that gets lost in the discussion since it happened early was the fourth down touchdown conversion. That was a pivotal play in the game.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

A play that gets lost in the discussion since it happened early was the fourth down touchdown conversion. That was a pivotal play in the game.

Both TD plays were on 4th down or 3rd down. The 4th down TD gained you 7 points compared to getting 0 points, while the 3rd down TD gained you 4 points compared to getting 3 points. Pretty huge to gain 11 points on those 2 plays. Flip side is they also lost 8 points on Toney's drop and the holding penalty to call back Pacheco's rushing TD.

[Kman34]

Why don’t we just come out in our normal offense? So many options and it will spread the defense out… Never understood why offenses feel the need to pack all 22 in a little area..

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by Kman34

Why don’t we just come out in our normal offense? So many options and it will spread the defense out… Never understood why offenses feel the need to pack all 22 in a little area..

I agree with this.

We don’t have to treat short yardage like short yardage.

Shit, just spread everyone out and trust Mahomes to pick it up with his legs and slide if nothing comes open.

You also have a better chance of drawing a flag that way.

[dtrain]

Originally Posted by Kman34

Why don’t we just come out in our normal offense? So many options and it will spread the defense out… Never understood why offenses feel the need to pack all 22 in a little area..

If we line up in a normal formation it open up gaps to run thru vs everyone bunched together

[notorious]

They need to treat 3rd and 1 like 3rd and 8.