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Old 04-02-2023, 06:45 PM   Topic Starter
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Trade Idea: Rams WR Allen Robinson to Patrick Mahomes' Chiefs
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The Los Angeles Rams need high picks in order to retool the roster and turn the ship around.

Only problem? They don't have that many.

While the 11 selections the Rams have are valuable, eight of those picks come after No. 150 overall. The team's three picks outside of those come on Day 2, and

Los Angeles could use another one.

Bleacher Report suggests an idea that could land them another mid-round pick, trading wide receiver Allen Robinson II to the Kansas City Chiefs.

The Chiefs are seeking a top wideout for Patrick Mahomes after JuJu Smith-Schuster signed with the New England Patriots in free agency, and Robinson fits the build.

The timing of this deal could be a little tricky though.
If the Rams were to trade Robinson before the draft in order to acquire a pick for this year, Los Angeles would save a mere $1.6 million in cap space. However, if the team had some patience and waited until after June 1, the Rams would save $10 million.

Last spring, Robinson signed a three-year, $46.5 million deal with the Rams. His contract carries cap hits north of $18 million for the upcoming 2023 and 2024 seasons -- clearly a situation the front office wants to avoid taking on.

Robinson is talented but managed to catch just 33 passes for 339 yards and three touchdowns in his first season with the Rams, failing to reach the high expectations placed upon him when he came to Los Angeles.

A divorce could be best for both sides, and the Chiefs could bring out the best in Robinson with arguably the league's best quarterback throwing to him.
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Old 04-02-2023, 06:50 PM   #2
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*looks at Robinson's contract*



I was all about Robinson two years ago? last offseason? But now, with that contract? Eh.....what are we talking about, here? A fifth? Fourth?

To try and put a positive spin on it - Randy Moss was traded to the Pats from the Raiders for a fourth round pick, so maybe it has the potential to work?


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Old 04-02-2023, 07:05 PM   #3
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I was all about Robinson two years ago? last offseason? But now, with that contract? Eh.....what are we talking about, here? A fifth? Fourth?

To try and put a positive spin on it - Randy Moss was traded to the Pats from the Raiders for a fourth round pick, so maybe it has the potential to work?


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Contract looks pretty good to me if we want a cheap bandaid. I believe LAR already paid his roster bonus. And they’ve paid out his signing bonus. So it’d be $10m this year and $16m next year. Which we can void if Robinson sucks this year or if we find a young replacement.
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Old 04-02-2023, 07:14 PM   #4
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Contract looks pretty good to me if we want a cheap bandaid. I believe LAR already paid his roster bonus. And they’ve paid out his signing bonus. So it’d be $10m this year and $16m next year. Which we can void if Robinson sucks this year or if we find a young replacement.
That would help. I didn't look at the details of his deal, just the average of his deal
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Old 04-02-2023, 07:15 PM   #5
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Old 04-03-2023, 06:45 AM   #6
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Old 04-03-2023, 09:17 AM   #7
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Contract looks pretty good to me if we want a cheap bandaid. I believe LAR already paid his roster bonus. And they’ve paid out his signing bonus. So it’d be $10m this year and $16m next year. Which we can void if Robinson sucks this year or if we find a young replacement.
Eh - $10 million for a guy who's been hurt and/or ineffective the last 2 seasons (as he's entered his 30s) doesn't qualify as a 'cheap bandaid', IMO.

That's a desperation play. And with very little upside because you're not going to write that guy's $5 million roster bonus check next season so he's really just a 1 year deal at $10 million.

And he looked DONE last season after somehow looking as bad/worse the season before.

Nah - that's gonna need to be a deal where they bonus out that base salary over the remaining 4 years (2 void) on his deal to get that salary down near $5 million this season at worst. And is $5 million in cap savings worth a 6th round pick for the Rams? Probably not - ol' Les and his '**** dem picks' approach wouldn't seem to care that much about a 3rd day pick.

There have been a slew of better gambles to make in FA at lower costs and we haven't made them. This one seems very unlikely absent some additional maneuvering by the Rams.
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Old 04-03-2023, 09:38 AM   #8
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Eh - $10 million for a guy who's been hurt and/or ineffective the last 2 seasons (as he's entered his 30s) doesn't qualify as a 'cheap bandaid', IMO.

That's a desperation play. And with very little upside because you're not going to write that guy's $5 million roster bonus check next season so he's really just a 1 year deal at $10 million.

And he looked DONE last season after somehow looking as bad/worse the season before.

Nah - that's gonna need to be a deal where they bonus out that base salary over the remaining 4 years (2 void) on his deal to get that salary down near $5 million this season at worst. And is $5 million in cap savings worth a 6th round pick for the Rams? Probably not - ol' Les and his '**** dem picks' approach wouldn't seem to care that much about a 3rd day pick.

There have been a slew of better gambles to make in FA at lower costs and we haven't made them. This one seems very unlikely absent some additional maneuvering by the Rams.
Yeah it would depend on if he’s cooked. I didn’t see enough of him to know. I thought from the little I saw he’s got a little left but was used poorly. I am just saying if you think a guy like this has any gas left in the tank this kind of contract isn’t a bad one. If the goal is to aggresssively develop a WR1 or maybe hold out into true WR1s like aiyuk become available either way it seems like our best immediate solution is a bandaid.

And a 2-year deal worth $10m with a conditional second year ain’t too shabby. I thought the juju deal last year was a good one too. Where we tripped up (and I’m hoping I’m wrong) was not aggressively drafting a WR1. I just don’t think skyy has that ceiling. As long as the goal is to get rid of these bandaids sooner vs later, it’s not a bad strategy to overpay a little. Of course that completely depends on if the guy is too cooked to contribute anymore.
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Eh - $10 million for a guy who's been hurt and/or ineffective the last 2 seasons (as he's entered his 30s) doesn't qualify as a 'cheap bandaid', IMO.

That's a desperation play. And with very little upside because you're not going to write that guy's $5 million roster bonus check next season so he's really just a 1 year deal at $10 million.

And he looked DONE last season after somehow looking as bad/worse the season before.

Nah - that's gonna need to be a deal where they bonus out that base salary over the remaining 4 years (2 void) on his deal to get that salary down near $5 million this season at worst. And is $5 million in cap savings worth a 6th round pick for the Rams? Probably not - ol' Les and his '**** dem picks' approach wouldn't seem to care that much about a 3rd day pick.

There have been a slew of better gambles to make in FA at lower costs and we haven't made them. This one seems very unlikely absent some additional maneuvering by the Rams.

Is he 30 this year? I thought he just turned 29 - and was he "done" because the Rams were garbage or "done" as in Josh Gordon status?
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