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Old 04-17-2023, 10:07 AM   Topic Starter
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A QB in the fourth round?

That's what Brugler thinks in his latest mock draft.

https://theathletic.com/4413880/2023...ck-draft-2023/

1 (31): Keion White, Edge Georgia Tech
2 (63): Tyler Scott, WR, Cincinnati
3 (95): Jaelyn Duncan, OT, Maryland
4 (122): Jaren Hall, QB, BYU
4 (134): DeMarvion Overshown, LB, Texas
5 (166): Desjuan Johnson, DT, Toledo
6 (178): Sean Tucker, RB, Syracuse
6 (217): Grant DuBose, WR, Charlotte
7 (249): Blake Whiteheart, TE, Wake Forest
7 (250): Nic Jones, CB, Ball State

31. Kansas City Chiefs: Keion White, Edge, Georgia Tech
The Chiefs will be examining their pass-rush options early, and White will be near the top of their list. The NFL announced that White is one of 17 prospects who will be attending this year’s draft, and he’s the last of those 17 to appear in this mock. With the draft being held in Kansas City, though, it would make for good TV to have the Chiefs’ selection already in town.

63. Kansas City Chiefs: Tyler Scott, WR, Cincinnati
With the Chiefs expected to add wide receiver help at some point in the first three rounds, Scott is a name to keep on the radar. A true three-level threat, he will be drafted somewhere in the 50-100 range and look like a steal three years from now.

122. Kansas City Chiefs: Jaren Hall, QB, BYU
The BYU connection between Andy Reid and Hall is a fun story, but I’m told the Chiefs “love” Hall’s skill set. Kansas City understands the importance of the backup quarterback, so much so that the Chiefs might even make this pick a round earlier.

178. Kansas City Chiefs: Sean Tucker, RB, Syracuse
The medical question marks might drop Tucker on draft weekend — how far is anyone’s guess. But the value at this point in the draft would make him well worth the risk for the Chiefs.
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Old 04-17-2023, 10:09 AM   #2
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Seems like a total waste of a pick.
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Old 04-17-2023, 10:12 AM   #3
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Seems like a total waste of a pick.
We've needed a backup QB several times over PM's career.

Having a guy who can play like Mahomes does could be a huge benefit to us. Obviously not at the same level, but Hall plays a very similar style.

And he'd be set up to look absolutely spectacular in short stints and/or pre-season games. You give him 2-3 years here and you may well have teams looking to send us a 2nd for him.

It wouldn't be an ideal pick, but a 'waste'? Nah - I think we could get a pretty fair amount of value out of Hall. Especially if we wanted to re-install the QB Sneak and needed him out there to present a credible passing threat.
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We've needed a backup QB several times over PM's career.

Having a guy who can play like Mahomes does could be a huge benefit to us. Obviously not at the same level, but Hall plays a very similar style.

And he'd be set up to look absolutely spectacular in short stints and/or pre-season games. You give him 2-3 years here and you may well have teams looking to send us a 2nd for him.

It wouldn't be an ideal pick, but a 'waste'? Nah - I think we could get a pretty fair amount of value out of Hall. Especially if we wanted to re-install the QB Sneak and needed him out there to present a credible passing threat.
I guess if you have an extra 4th round pick and have a roster set up that's not completely devoid of talent...then sure. It would probably have me scratching my head at first but Veach has made me look like an idiot on more than one occasion. This would be no different.
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I've loved the idea of taking Jaren Hall to backup Mahomes since draft season started.

But in the 4th? Can't see myself pulling the trigger there. Maybe with the 134th but probably not at 122.

that 5th rounder was my sweet spot for him.
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If we take White at 31, prepare for plenty of bitching from this bundle of sticks:

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If we take White at 31, prepare for plenty of bitching from this bundle of sticks:

That's how I found the mock draft.

He's compared White to Speaks already.
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That's how I found the mock draft.

He's compared White to Speaks already.
The funny thing is, those guys did the same thing with Karlaftis last year around this time.

Like I said, White looks like what Veach wished he was getting with Speaks. I don't see how you can come to the conclusion that White = Speaks.
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The funny thing is, those guys did the same thing with Karlaftis last year around this time.

Like I said, White looks like what Veach wished he was getting with Speaks. I don't see how you can come to the conclusion that White = Speaks.
They still shit on Bolton every chance they get.

The KCSN crew has simply never been wrong. Ever. You're wrong if your eyes don't tell you what their preconceived notions did.
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They still shit on Bolton every chance they get.

The KCSN crew has simply never been wrong. Ever. You're wrong if your eyes don't tell you what their preconceived notions did.
He also hated the Creed pick because of “positional value”.
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The funny thing is, those guys did the same thing with Karlaftis last year around this time.

Like I said, White looks like what Veach wished he was getting with Speaks. I don't see how you can come to the conclusion that White = Speaks.
Do you disagree with their assessment? Sure seems like their are better options if they’re going DE at 31.
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Do you disagree with their assessment? Sure seems like their are better options if they’re going DE at 31.
Umm yes. I absolutely disagree with his assessment that White = Speaks. It's a lazy take.
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Do you disagree with their assessment? Sure seems like their are better options if they’re going DE at 31.
Their assessment ends with his age.

"How many guys get better at 24? And you'll never give him a second contract..."

A) A TON of players, especially DL, improve at 24.
B) who cares about a second contract when you have a 5th yr option?
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I think id rather have something else at that pick but i get the idea.
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Swanson's "nightmare scenario" is White/Rice in the 1st and 2nd rounds. Then Achane in R3.

**** right off. That draft would be awesome.
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