Final 2023 Chiefs Mock

kccrow · 04-26-2023, 08:26 PM

Hang onto your porta-potties boys ...

1-14. LT BRODERICK JONES | Georgia (6'5" 311)
KC sends 1-31, 3-95, 2024 1st to NE for 1-14.
My magic 8-ball tells me that Veach is going to push his chips in to finalize this offensive line and he's not going to do it for a 2nd-rate prospect. He's going to do his usual balls-deep approach and get a guy he wants. Veach hasn't been shy about spending multiple premium assets on a single player before and I think he does it again for a guy that I think has the most upside of any LT prospect in this draft. He also happens to be one of only a handful of prospects the Chiefs have knowingly met with multiple times (W. McDonald, D. Wright, A. Bradford, R. Bell, and B. Thompson being the others I'm aware of).

2-63. DE ISAIAH FOSKEY | Notre Dame (6'5" 264)
In my opinion, there isn't a more "Spags'-style" DE in this draft than Foskey. He's been getting fairly consistent bottom-of-two grades as things come to a close and that's an insane value. If he's there, he's a Chief in my opinion. He fits long-term into the rotation to give KC a really stellar unit that can move any of the three of him, Omenihu, or Karlaftis down inside.

3-102. WR RASHEE RICE | Southern Methodist (6'0" 205)
KC sends 4-122, 5-166, and 6-217 to SF for 3-102.
I have a feeling the 49ers are going to package 2 of their 3 late-third-round picks to move up much higher in the 3rd to at least get a top-75 player. If they do that, they may be looking to recoup some assets and KC is a prime player to give it to them. Veach makes the boss happy by making a huge splash in round 1 then putting a capstone on day 2 with the draft in KC. Rice has seemingly settled into late 3rd/early 4th rankings and so I see KC wanting to pounce on a guy that can get it done in a similar role as JuJu.

4-134. DT CAMERON YOUNG | Mississippi State (6'3" 305)
It took every ounce of my being not to put Zacch Pickens at 63, so consider it a caveat that he's probably my 2b. Anyhow, the Chiefs have to address the DT position at some point in this draft and perhaps a couple of times. Young is a stalwart plugger that could find himself a very DJ Reader-esque career if he meets his projection. He's tough at the point of attack and gets off the ball well, which is a big knock on so many of the DTs in this draft.

6-178. RB EVAN HULL | Northwestern (5'10" 209)
It seems like Veach always likes to hone in on a Senior Bowl standout and Hull was exactly that. He's a good runner with patience and contact balance and the speed to take it home when he gets the opportunity. He's also an extremely good receiver out of the backfield and led all FBS backs with 55 receptions last year. He needs some technique work in pass blocking as a 3rd down back but he doesn't lack effort there.

7-249. DT DESJUAN JOHNSON | Toledo (6'2" 285)
Johnson is a rocket it off the line that creates havoc in opposing backfields. He did so to the tune of 65 tkls, 16.5 tfl, and 5.5 sacks en route to an All-MAC selection. The Chiefs took notice and I think he's an ideal long-term replacement for Wharton. He can add value right now as a rush package guy and hopefully put on a little more mass. He has some rotational value at DE as well but his lack of length is the lone major wart.

7-250. FS JERRICK REED II | New Mexico (5'10" 196)
Reed is much like Nazeeh Johnson as a nickel/safety hybrid that's a bit undersized but he has the reaction skills to keep phase and the aggressiveness and IQ that puts him in position with good outcomes. I think Veach will want to keep pumping guys in that can be multiple if they lose Sneed. Reed can also be a valuable special teams guy with this speed and tackling.

Roster

QB P. Mahomes II, B. Gabbert, S. Buechele
RB I. Pacheco, C. Edwards-Helaire, E. Hull
WR K. Toney, M. Valdez-Scantling, S. Moore, R. Rice, R. James, J. Ross
TE T. Kelce, N. Gray, J. Fortson, B. Bell
OT B. Jones, J. Taylor, L. Niang, P. Tega-Wanogho
IL J. Thuney, C. Humphrey, T. Smith, N. Allegretti, D. Kinnard

DE G. Karlaftis, C. Omenihu, I. Foskey, M. Danna, M. Herring
DT C. Jones, D. Nnadi, C. Young, T. Wharton, D. Johnson
LB N. Bolton, D. Tranquill, L. Chenal, W. Gay, J. Cochrane
CB L. Sneed, T. McDuffie, J. Watson, J. Williams, N. Johnson
DB J. Reid, M. Edwards, B. Cook, D. Bush, J. Reed

ST H. Butker, T. Townsend, J. Winchester

TambaBerry · 04-27-2023, 03:26 AM

Man I'm just not a huge fan of Broderick Jones, I think he is way overrated and will bust.

Mecca · 04-27-2023, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry

Man I'm just not a huge fan of Broderick Jones, I think he is way overrated and will bust.

He's actually probably the best overall fit for the Chiefs of any of the OT's...

CupidStunt · 04-27-2023, 03:37 AM

I'd trust Veach, and our OL would be insane, but wouldn't be thrilled. Two 1s for a non-QB or proven elite player really puts the pressure on him. Hopefully he'd be a lot closer to Julio Jones than Marcus Davenport.

Couch-Potato · 04-27-2023, 08:29 AM

Love it! Fireworks for the first 3 picks!

**The Franchise** · 04-27-2023, 08:33 AM

I love the 2nd and 3rd round but I can't get behind trading that much for Jones. I'd much rather keep those picks, stay put at 31 and pick someone else.

**Meatloaf** · 04-27-2023, 08:34 AM

Crow, I think that'd be a tremendous haul. I also appreciate your comments on each guy.....made for a great read. Nice work!!!

Mecca · 04-27-2023, 08:37 AM

Jones would have to be an all pro to be worth that trade by the way...

DJ's left nut · 04-27-2023, 09:25 AM

No way on this earth or any other that I'm trading our 1st out of next year's draft.

I cannot state strongly enough what a truly truly awful idea that is.

Guys - take a look at next year's draft class. It's absolutely obscene. And no, we won't have a shot at those guys, but it'll push back the level of players who are going in the 8-15 range this year into the 20-25 range next year.

Do NOT give up substantial capital out of next season's draft to move up this year. Under any circumstance.

Crow - this is your worst idea yet.

**The Franchise** · 04-27-2023, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

No way on this earth or any other that I'm trading our 1st out of next year's draft.

I cannot state strongly enough what a truly truly awful idea that is.

Guys - take a look at next year's draft class. It's absolutely obscene. And no, we won't have a shot at those guys, but it'll push back the level of players who are going in the 8-15 range this year into the 20-25 range next year.

Do NOT give up substantial capital out of next season's draft to move up this year. Under any circumstance.

Crow - this is your worst idea yet.

What, if anything, in the way of 2024 picks are you okay with giving up?

O.city · 04-27-2023, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

What, if anything, in the way of 2024 picks are you okay with giving up?

For this group of 2nd rounders parading as firsts this year? None

**The Franchise** · 04-27-2023, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

For this group of 2nd rounders parading as firsts this year? None

You feeling okay?

O.city · 04-27-2023, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

You feeling okay?

People come to get teeth taken out and expect to not feel anything. No pain, no pressure, no nothing.

****ing doesn't work that way.

DJ's left nut · 04-27-2023, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

What, if anything, in the way of 2024 picks are you okay with giving up?

Maybe in the 3rd?

By then the draft will have fallen into a pretty normal course; the talent pushed back by an absurd top end will have mostly sorted itself out and you'll probably be looking at your normal guys in the 60 and beyond range.

But a 3rd in next years draft gets you, what exactly? It's a cherry on top of a deal where you had to give up a fair bit this season. So practically speaking, I can't see a scenario where I pull that trigger.

I just see Williams, Harrison, Fahanu, Bowers, Maye and Verse being so much better than anyone in this draft. Probably Alt as well. A guy like Tuimoloau is probably better than Anderson and he MIGHT go top 10? Dallas Turner is probably just as good and he almost certainly won't.

As I said elsewhere, if I'm making deals involving 2024 draft capital, I'm adding it - not subtracting it. I'll take that trade out of the 1st this year for someone's 1st next year. Quickly, in fact.

**The Franchise** · 04-27-2023, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

As I said elsewhere, if I'm making deals involving 2024 draft capital, I'm adding it - not subtracting it. I'll take that trade out of the 1st this year for someone's 1st next year. Quickly, in fact.

It's the one thing that Veach hasn't done yet. Maybe this is the year.

04-26-2023, 08:26 PM	Topic Starter
kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $-1290000	Final 2023 Chiefs Mock Hang onto your porta-potties boys ... 1-14. LT BRODERICK JONES \| Georgia (6'5" 311) KC sends 1-31, 3-95, 2024 1st to NE for 1-14. My magic 8-ball tells me that Veach is going to push his chips in to finalize this offensive line and he's not going to do it for a 2nd-rate prospect. He's going to do his usual balls-deep approach and get a guy he wants. Veach hasn't been shy about spending multiple premium assets on a single player before and I think he does it again for a guy that I think has the most upside of any LT prospect in this draft. He also happens to be one of only a handful of prospects the Chiefs have knowingly met with multiple times (W. McDonald, D. Wright, A. Bradford, R. Bell, and B. Thompson being the others I'm aware of). 2-63. DE ISAIAH FOSKEY \| Notre Dame (6'5" 264) In my opinion, there isn't a more "Spags'-style" DE in this draft than Foskey. He's been getting fairly consistent bottom-of-two grades as things come to a close and that's an insane value. If he's there, he's a Chief in my opinion. He fits long-term into the rotation to give KC a really stellar unit that can move any of the three of him, Omenihu, or Karlaftis down inside. 3-102. WR RASHEE RICE \| Southern Methodist (6'0" 205) KC sends 4-122, 5-166, and 6-217 to SF for 3-102. I have a feeling the 49ers are going to package 2 of their 3 late-third-round picks to move up much higher in the 3rd to at least get a top-75 player. If they do that, they may be looking to recoup some assets and KC is a prime player to give it to them. Veach makes the boss happy by making a huge splash in round 1 then putting a capstone on day 2 with the draft in KC. Rice has seemingly settled into late 3rd/early 4th rankings and so I see KC wanting to pounce on a guy that can get it done in a similar role as JuJu. 4-134. DT CAMERON YOUNG \| Mississippi State (6'3" 305) It took every ounce of my being not to put Zacch Pickens at 63, so consider it a caveat that he's probably my 2b. Anyhow, the Chiefs have to address the DT position at some point in this draft and perhaps a couple of times. Young is a stalwart plugger that could find himself a very DJ Reader-esque career if he meets his projection. He's tough at the point of attack and gets off the ball well, which is a big knock on so many of the DTs in this draft. 6-178. RB EVAN HULL \| Northwestern (5'10" 209) It seems like Veach always likes to hone in on a Senior Bowl standout and Hull was exactly that. He's a good runner with patience and contact balance and the speed to take it home when he gets the opportunity. He's also an extremely good receiver out of the backfield and led all FBS backs with 55 receptions last year. He needs some technique work in pass blocking as a 3rd down back but he doesn't lack effort there. 7-249. DT DESJUAN JOHNSON \| Toledo (6'2" 285) Johnson is a rocket it off the line that creates havoc in opposing backfields. He did so to the tune of 65 tkls, 16.5 tfl, and 5.5 sacks en route to an All-MAC selection. The Chiefs took notice and I think he's an ideal long-term replacement for Wharton. He can add value right now as a rush package guy and hopefully put on a little more mass. He has some rotational value at DE as well but his lack of length is the lone major wart. 7-250. FS JERRICK REED II \| New Mexico (5'10" 196) Reed is much like Nazeeh Johnson as a nickel/safety hybrid that's a bit undersized but he has the reaction skills to keep phase and the aggressiveness and IQ that puts him in position with good outcomes. I think Veach will want to keep pumping guys in that can be multiple if they lose Sneed. Reed can also be a valuable special teams guy with this speed and tackling. Roster QB P. Mahomes II, B. Gabbert, S. Buechele RB I. Pacheco, C. Edwards-Helaire, E. Hull WR K. Toney, M. Valdez-Scantling, S. Moore, R. Rice, R. James, J. Ross TE T. Kelce, N. Gray, J. Fortson, B. Bell OT B. Jones, J. Taylor, L. Niang, P. Tega-Wanogho IL J. Thuney, C. Humphrey, T. Smith, N. Allegretti, D. Kinnard DE G. Karlaftis, C. Omenihu, I. Foskey, M. Danna, M. Herring DT C. Jones, D. Nnadi, C. Young, T. Wharton, D. Johnson LB N. Bolton, D. Tranquill, L. Chenal, W. Gay, J. Cochrane CB L. Sneed, T. McDuffie, J. Watson, J. Williams, N. Johnson DB J. Reid, M. Edwards, B. Cook, D. Bush, J. Reed ST H. Butker, T. Townsend, J. Winchester
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04-27-2023, 03:26 AM	#2
TambaBerry MVP Join Date: Jan 2013 Casino cash: $-1544459	Man I'm just not a huge fan of Broderick Jones, I think he is way overrated and will bust.
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04-27-2023, 03:37 AM	#4
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04-27-2023, 08:29 AM	#5
Couch-Potato Simmons @ 32 > Fisher @ 1 Join Date: Jan 2015 Casino cash: $163065	Love it! Fireworks for the first 3 picks!
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04-27-2023, 08:33 AM	#6
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2065047	I love the 2nd and 3rd round but I can't get behind trading that much for Jones. I'd much rather keep those picks, stay put at 31 and pick someone else.
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04-27-2023, 08:34 AM	#7
Meatloaf Supporter Join Date: Feb 2013 Casino cash: $2000359	Crow, I think that'd be a tremendous haul. I also appreciate your comments on each guy.....made for a great read. Nice work!!!
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04-27-2023, 08:37 AM	#8
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-722950	Jones would have to be an all pro to be worth that trade by the way...
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04-27-2023, 09:25 AM	#9
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-860901	No way on this earth or any other that I'm trading our 1st out of next year's draft. I cannot state strongly enough what a truly truly awful idea that is. Guys - take a look at next year's draft class. It's absolutely obscene. And no, we won't have a shot at those guys, but it'll push back the level of players who are going in the 8-15 range this year into the 20-25 range next year. Do NOT give up substantial capital out of next season's draft to move up this year. Under any circumstance. Crow - this is your worst idea yet. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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