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Old 08-18-2023, 09:56 AM   Topic Starter
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This is pretty interesting from Netflix. I didn’t follow it all that closely when it came out so a lot was new to me. Interviews with Conte, IRS agent who started the thing and a few others.

Conte still denies giving steroids to Bonds but thinks he took them.

What I had no idea about was he started as and still has a vitamin supplement line that is apparently worth millions, which was endorsed by top athletes in the past, including endorsed by some current top boxer.
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Old 08-18-2023, 09:59 AM   #2
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If you see a pic of Bonds his rookie year compared to his last few years in baseball and come to the conclusion that he was NOT on the gas, well, I don't know what to say about it.
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Old 08-18-2023, 10:04 AM   #3
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I thought it was a pretty interesting show. Unfortunate all those athletes getting exposed because of somebody digging through the trash
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Old 08-18-2023, 10:07 AM   #4
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Unfortunately read the thread title as the Untold: Shane Falco documentary and thought genious
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Old 08-18-2023, 07:59 PM   #5
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If you see a pic of Bonds his rookie year compared to his last few years in baseball and come to the conclusion that he was NOT on the gas, well, I don't know what to say about it.
You can get fat. You can get yourself some Arnold like level muscles.

But when you are an adult, your body has stopped growing, you don’t get a bigger head without the side effect of steroids.
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Old 08-19-2023, 09:51 AM   #6
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You can get fat. You can get yourself some Arnold like level muscles.

But when you are an adult, your body has stopped growing, you don’t get a bigger head without the side effect of steroids.
Fact: A large head is not a side effect of steroids.
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Old 08-19-2023, 11:11 AM   #7
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You can get fat. You can get yourself some Arnold like level muscles.

But when you are an adult, your body has stopped growing, you don’t get a bigger head without the side effect of steroids.
That has to be one of the stupidest things ever posted. Steroids don't jump start your growth plates. I don't care how many of them you take either, you are not going to have Arnold like muscles without already having freakish genetics as a base to begin with.
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Old 08-18-2023, 10:09 AM   #8
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Old 08-18-2023, 10:28 AM   #9
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Old 08-18-2023, 11:39 AM   #10
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Of course Bonds took them. The only real question is why anybody cared/cares. It's professional baseball and supposed to be an entertainment product.
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Old 08-18-2023, 11:51 AM   #11
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Of course Bonds took them. The only real question is why anybody cared/cares. It's professional baseball and supposed to be an entertainment product.

I think not requiring people to inject themselves with drugs to be the best is perfectly reasonable.
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Old 08-18-2023, 06:54 PM   #12
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I think not requiring people to inject themselves with drugs to be the best is perfectly reasonable.
Who was/is requiring anybody to do anything?
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Old 08-18-2023, 08:39 PM   #13
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Who was/is requiring anybody to do anything?

If it’s common accepted practice then basically being a pro, let alone top performers, will require steroids. But honestly it’s not worth going into this further because luckily it’s generally well established that your position is ridiculous and this won’t ever change.
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Old 08-18-2023, 12:12 PM   #14
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Of course Bonds took them. The only real question is why anybody cared/cares. It's professional baseball and supposed to be an entertainment product.
I imagine Hank Aaron cared about his record being broken by someone who loaded up. It’s a weird thing that you somehow are equating baseball to the WWE. People care about that stuff and consider sports more than just entertainment that everyone can cheat in.
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I imagine Hank Aaron cared about his record being broken by someone who loaded up. It’s a weird thing that you somehow are equating baseball to the WWE. People care about that stuff and consider sports more than just entertainment that everyone can cheat in.
Why is it only baseball records matter?

If Donovan Smith got all juiced up and had a great year at LT..no one cares.

If a RB gets juiced up and goes for 2k..no one cares...
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