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Old 01-15-2024, 09:43 AM   Topic Starter
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It's like looking into the past
So watching these teams like the Dolphins that lose, then hearing the fans talking about "we need a difference maker at Tight End. We can't just throw to Hill and Waddle."

Or the Cowboys "We just need to get off to a better start, or get a difference coach in here".

It's the QB guys. The NFL is the haves and the have nots and when you are a have not......I don't know what to tell you.

I fell like it's the 90's and we're talking about the Chiefs.
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Old 01-15-2024, 09:56 AM   #2
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Yeah it is. Dolphins fans have really soured on Tua. They will play him on his 5th year option, then looking at another rebuild. Dak will be 31 next season.

It's familiar. Looking at the Dolphins winless playoff stretch I remembered we actually had two of those. From 70 through 90 and 94 through 14. That's crazy. But now we are on a 6 year run of winning every year. Because Mahomes.
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Because Mahomes.

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Yeah it is. Dolphins fans have really soured on Tua. They will play him on his 5th year option, then looking at another rebuild. Dak will be 31 next season.

It's familiar. Looking at the Dolphins winless playoff stretch I remembered we actually had two of those. From 70 through 90 and 94 through 14. That's crazy. But now we are on a 6 year run of winning every year. Because Mahomes.
Wow Dak is 31?

OP is correct. There are QBs that can get to the playoffs and QBs that get you thru the playoffs.
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Crazy to me that teams still want instant results instead of doing the Packers plan. Draft a QB with a high ceiling and sit him for at least one year to learn from a vet QB and solid coaches.

Rodgers, Mahomes and Love were wild horses with technical flaws but high ceilings when they were drafted. Rodgers held the ball near his ear when he threw at Cal, Mahomes footwork needed work and Love had consistency issues from the mental side of the game.

Zach Wilson and Jordan Love are good case studies. Both similar types of prospects that had high potential and could make the throws. Difference is one went to sit and learn in a good environment and the other was deemed the savior immediately with high expectations to start in a shit environment the moment he stepped in the building which ruined his confidence.
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Old 01-15-2024, 10:04 AM   #6
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Crazy to me that teams still want instant results instead of doing the Packers plan. Draft a QB with a high ceiling and sit him for at least one year to learn from a vet QB and solid coaches.

Rodgers, Mahomes and Love were wild horses with technical flaws but high ceilings when they were drafted. Rodgers held the ball near his ear when he threw at Cal, Mahomes footwork needed work and Love had consistency issues from the mental side of the game.

Zach Wilson and Jordan Love are good case studies. Both similar types of prospects that had high potential and could make the throws. Difference is one went to sit and learn in a good environment and the other was deemed the savior immediately with high expectations to start in a shit environment the moment he stepped in the building which ruined his confidence.
Well, I mean.....the Texans got instant results.
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Well, I mean.....the Texans got instant results.
And are we sold on Jordan Love? Because he's been up and down all season and the Cowgirls just farded and shidid their pants yesterday.
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And are we sold on Jordan Love? Because he's been up and down all season and the Cowgirls just farded and shidid their pants yesterday.
I don't know if he's the Favre/Rodgers successor, but the strides he's made from last year, hell, even early this year are remarkable. I was absolutely convinced he had no shot of sticking as a starter anywhere, now he's winning road playoff games. He will be very interesting to watch over the next few years.
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And are we sold on Jordan Love? Because he's been up and down all season and the Cowgirls just farded and shidid their pants yesterday.
Disagree. The switch came on for him about the time we lost to him. Him and the WRs have all continued to get better. That's good coaching.

Packers have a chance against the 49ers.
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Well, I mean.....the Texans got instant results.
But how often does a Stroud happen? He should have been the first pick. If you don't have a top 5 pick, then what?
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But how often does a Stroud happen? He should have been the first pick. If you don't have a top 5 pick, then what?
Trade up.

Don't draft guys who don't have the tools to do it.
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Trade up.

Don't draft guys who don't have the tools to do it.
Well the Packers literally drafted Rodgers and Love in the 20's.
There are guys with higher ceiling and tools that can be developed in time in the right situation.

Will Levis stands out as one of those types of guys. Is he really that much different than Jordan Love as a prospect?
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Well, I mean.....the Texans got instant results.
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Crazy to me that teams still want instant results instead of doing the Packers plan. Draft a QB with a high ceiling and sit him for at least one year to learn from a vet QB and solid coaches.

Rodgers, Mahomes and Love were wild horses with technical flaws but high ceilings when they were drafted. Rodgers held the ball near his ear when he threw at Cal, Mahomes footwork needed work and Love had consistency issues from the mental side of the game.

Zach Wilson and Jordan Love are good case studies. Both similar types of prospects that had high potential and could make the throws. Difference is one went to sit and learn in a good environment and the other was deemed the savior immediately with high expectations to start in a shit environment the moment he stepped in the building which ruined his confidence.
Zach is also a jackass - attitude is absolutely contributing to his failings.
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So watching these teams like the Dolphins that lose, then hearing the fans talking about "we need a difference maker at Tight End. We can't just throw to Hill and Waddle."

Or the Cowboys "We just need to get off to a better start, or get a difference coach in here".

It's the QB guys. The NFL is the haves and the have nots and when you are a have not......I don't know what to tell you.

I fell like it's the 90's and we're talking about the Chiefs.
And the 2000's, and the 2010's
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