Let's rank the AFC teams since we have nothing else to do.

[Direckshun]

Here's how I'd rank the teams right now.

1. Chiefs
2. Ravens
3. Bills
4. Texans
5. Bengals
6. Steelers
7. Jets
8. Broncos
9. Chargers
10. Colts
11. Raiders
12. Jaguars
13. Dolphins
14. Browns
15. Patriots
16. Titans

I'd say the Ravens/Chiefs are about even, but I'm giving to the Chiefs by a toe.

Thoughts?

[BlackOp]

The Chargers just blanked the Donks...it was 23-0 to start the 4th.

Raiders just shipped Adams...both AFCW teams are bottom 4.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

The Chargers just blanked the Donks...it was 23-0 to start the 4th.

Raiders just shipped Adams...both AFCW teams are bottom 4.

That's fair on the Chargers/Broncos. I don't think the Broncos are bottom 4.

Raiders either -- not because they're not bad, but who the hell would you put over them?

The Browns and the Dolphins can't score. The Titans and the Patriots are basically dysfunctional.

Maybe the Jags? Maybe.

[O.city]

Id say that's about right.

The Bengals are better than the Texans but the early losses may doom them.

[Sofa King]

1. Chiefs
2. Ravens
3. Texans
4. Bills
5. Steelers
6. Chargers
7. Jets
8. Bengals
9. Broncos
10. Colts
11. Dolphins
12. Raiders
13. Jags
14. Browns
15. Patriots
16. Titans

The bottom 6 are ALL ****ing awful. It's hard to choose. I give the Dolphins a slight bump up just because they COULD get Tua back. Browns could easily slip down one if Maye plays well.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by Sofa King

1. Chiefs
2. Ravens
3. Texans
4. Bills
5. Steelers
6. Chargers
7. Jets
8. Bengals
9. Broncos
10. Colts
11. Dolphins
12. Raiders
13. Jags
14. Browns
15. Patriots
16. Titans

The bottom 6 are ALL ****ing awful. It's hard to choose. I give the Dolphins a slight bump up just because they COULD get Tua back. Browns could easily slip down one if Maye plays well.

Putting Texans at #3 is slightly bolder than me.

I just ... haven't liked what the Texans have put out there as much as I have the Bills. I really like Stroud and the talent they've given him. The defense has upside. I feel like they aren't putting it together as thoroughly as the Bills are.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Putting Texans at #3 is slightly bolder than me.

I just ... haven't liked what the Texans have put out there as much as I have the Bills. I really like Stroud and the talent they've given him. The defense has upside. I feel like they aren't putting it together as thoroughly as the Bills are.

I think the gap between the Texans and Ravens is still pretty big.

They weren’t even all that close last year.

[St. Patty's Fire]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Putting Texans at #3 is slightly bolder than me.

I just ... haven't liked what the Texans have put out there as much as I have the Bills. I really like Stroud and the talent they've given him. The defense has upside. I feel like they aren't putting it together as thoroughly as the Bills are.

dont really understand that bc the bills look like dogshit against any competent team and had no weapons before cooper whereas the texans have high end talent all over their lineup and have not looked like dogshit in any game

[O.city]

And yeah, the Broncos aren't good.

[RunKC]

For the Chiefs I’m most worried about the Bengals. We own the Ravens and Bills but for some reason we struggle against the Bengals. That is one team we don’t have a clear mental edge over. It’s always a straight up dog fight and Mahomes doesn’t play that well vs Lou.

I want them eliminated

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by RunKC

For the Chiefs I’m most worried about the Bengals. We own the Ravens and Bills but for some reason we struggle against the Bengals. That is one team we don’t have a clear mental edge over. It’s always a straight up dog fight and Mahomes doesn’t play that well vs Lou.

I want them eliminated

I think the Ravens, Bills, and Bengals are all clear threats.

The Bengals are the clearest threat. Mahomes + Spags is the best QB/DC combo in the league, but Burrow + Anarumo isn't far behind.

Lamar will regress in January as he always does, but I gotta be honest -- the NFL has never seen a running combination like him and Derrick Henry. I almost wonder if that run game is so good they don't even need Lamar to be Lamar in January.

The Bills are clearly inferior to the Chiefs but Josh Allen is the second best player in the National Football League, and if he goes God Mode on an off day for Mahomes, it wouldn't be super fun.

I think the Chiefs have more answers for these teams than these teams have for the Chiefs, however. But I think they're all pretty clearly the biggest threats.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

I think the Ravens, Bills, and Bengals are all clear threats.

The Bengals are the clearest threat. Mahomes + Spags is the best QB/DC combo in the league, but Burrow + Anarumo isn't far behind.

Lamar will regress in January as he always does, but I gotta be honest -- the NFL has never seen a running combination like him and Derrick Henry. I almost wonder if that run game is so good they don't even need Lamar to be Lamar in January.

The Bills are clearly inferior to the Chiefs but Josh Allen is the second best player in the National Football League, and if he goes God Mode on an off day for Mahomes, it wouldn't be super fun.

I think the Chiefs have more answers for these teams than these teams have for the Chiefs, however. But I think they're all pretty clearly the biggest threats.

One or both of Lamar/Henry is/are likely to break down at some point.

The Ravens gave Henry a bunch of carries late against the Bills when they were up by 20.

I would be astonished if both stay this effective all year.

Henry is on pace for nearly 300 touches. Lamar is on pace for 150 carries again.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

One or both of Lamar/Henry is/are likely to break down at some point.

The Ravens gave Henry a bunch of carries late against the Bills when they were up by 20.

I would be astonished if both stay this effective all year.

Henry is on pace for nearly 300 touches. Lamar is on pace for 150 carries again.

Man, I don't know.

Everything we know and have seen suggests you're right. But I think Lamar may have found a way to play like Lamar and stay healthy.

And Henry, man. I was bearish on the Ravens all preseason for the exact reason you mentioned. But he just seems like he's not slowing down.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Man, I don't know.

Everything we know and have seen suggests you're right. But I think Lamar may have found a way to play like Lamar and stay healthy.

And Henry, man. I was bearish on the Ravens all preseason for the exact reason you mentioned. But he just seems like he's not slowing down.

Lamar didn’t finish either of the two seasons prior to last season.

It just takes one fluke play to slow him down. And all those carries increase the likelihood of it. He isn’t as foolish as Josh Allen with taking big hits, but that’s a lot of guys going for his legs on those runs.

If one goes down, expect the other to get even more work too.

[417Chiefsfan]

Originally Posted by RunKC

For the Chiefs I’m most worried about the Bengals. We own the Ravens and Bills but for some reason we struggle against the Bengals. That is one team we don’t have a clear mental edge over. It’s always a straight up dog fight and Mahomes doesn’t play that well vs Lou.

I want them eliminated

Nah I want to be the ones to knock them out again. They had some early success against us but lets keep beating them from here out to prove we're dominant against all opposition.