Football Lets talk about "Flaws"

O.city · 12-31-2024, 10:46 AM

We've got a bit of down time so I thought we could have a general football discussion, specifically at the professional level and today's NFL.

We've been hearing all year "they're not the same team, they've got flaws, they're not the same as the previous ones" and it made me think, well.......yeah which team doesn't?

So I did a bit of a deep dive back on the past 10 years or so and.....which team didn't have "Flaws"? I couldn't really find one.

Just always wondered why that's a "talking point"? "They've got flaws".

Well yeah, every team does. What's the point of this being a talking point?

**Buehler445** · 12-31-2024, 10:49 AM

I think it's just a new way of saying "it's bullshit luck."

But the dudes that are astute are saying, it's just like the Cheatriots. They're not going to beat themselves. You have to beat them.

O.city · 12-31-2024, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

I think it's just a new way of saying "it's bullshit luck."

But the dudes that are astute are saying, it's just like the Cheatriots. They're not going to beat themselves. You have to beat them.

I've just never understood the reasoning for using it, knowing the league is set up to make you this way.

Will we ever see a team without flaws? I can't think of one.

ThrobProng · 12-31-2024, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Will we ever see a team without flaws? I can't think of one.

As long as the rosters consist of human beings, there will never be a team without flaws in any sport.

**Buehler445** · 12-31-2024, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I've just never understood the reasoning for using it, knowing the league is set up to make you this way.

Will we ever see a team without flaws? I can't think of one.

It probably goes back to those Cheatriot ****bag teams that are so hateable.

Brady
Edleman
Gronk
Elite OL
Elite Defense

They were pretty damn solid.

**notorious** · 12-31-2024, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I've just never understood the reasoning for using it, knowing the league is set up to make you this way.

Will we ever see a team without flaws? I can't think of one.

Pre-salary cap had as close to flawless teams as possible.

The Cowboys were stacked on both sides of the ball, San Fran had a few of those teams too.

IowaHawkeyeChief · 12-31-2024, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

Pre-salary cap had as close to flawless teams as possible.

The Cowboys were stacked on both sides of the ball, San Fran had a few of those teams too.

Same with those 70s Steeler teams.

FloridaMan88 · 12-31-2024, 01:26 PM

Maybe not a “flaw”, but a definite question mark for Detroit is Goff’s ability to deliver in a clutch situation.

Especially if they don’t get the #1 seed… Goff having to make a critical play on the road in Philly or Minnesota?

Need to see it to believe it.

Monticore · 12-31-2024, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

I think it's just a new way of saying "it's bullshit luck."

But the dudes that are astute are saying, it's just like the Cheatriots. They're not going to beat themselves. You have to beat them.

Envy? Who know I mean I point out flaws on hot chicks so I can stare at them longer without my wife getting mad.

RunKC · 12-31-2024, 10:52 AM

Lions were the least flawed team until injuries destroyed their defense

O.city · 12-31-2024, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Lions were the least flawed team until injuries destroyed their defense

Maybe.

But even then.....with that defensive backfield against the pass I dunno.

**Buehler445** · 12-31-2024, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Lions were the least flawed team until injuries destroyed their defense

Then the douches could argue depth is their flaw.

I agree with O that it's a dumbass argument.

Womble · 12-31-2024, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Lions were the least flawed team until injuries destroyed their defense

A team coached by Dan Campbell cannot by default be the least flawed team.

O.city · 12-31-2024, 10:54 AM

RunKC brings up a great point though in that maybe we shouldn't talk about it as flawed vs unflawed but more so, least flawed.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 12-31-2024, 11:02 AM

Well and the other issue is you always view your own team through a different lens than the rest of the league. Ironically the Chiefs are the lone exception right now where even non-fans are super picky about them because it's way more fun to come up with reasons they may lose than keep talking about why they probably won't.

But you're just always gonna be a lot more privy to your own team's problems while maybe ignoring another teams unless it's super glaring.

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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-555936	Lets talk about "Flaws" We've got a bit of down time so I thought we could have a general football discussion, specifically at the professional level and today's NFL. We've been hearing all year "they're not the same team, they've got flaws, they're not the same as the previous ones" and it made me think, well.......yeah which team doesn't? So I did a bit of a deep dive back on the past 10 years or so and.....which team didn't have "Flaws"? I couldn't really find one. Just always wondered why that's a "talking point"? "They've got flaws". Well yeah, every team does. What's the point of this being a talking point?
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Buehler445 Supporter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Scott City KS Casino cash: $-1385266	I think it's just a new way of saying "it's bullshit luck." But the dudes that are astute are saying, it's just like the Cheatriots. They're not going to beat themselves. You have to beat them.
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FloridaMan88 Mahomes: We Are All Witnesses Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami, FL Casino cash: $-537094	Maybe not a “flaw”, but a definite question mark for Detroit is Goff’s ability to deliver in a clutch situation. Especially if they don’t get the #1 seed… Goff having to make a critical play on the road in Philly or Minnesota? Need to see it to believe it.
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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1430389	Lions were the least flawed team until injuries destroyed their defense __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-555936	RunKC brings up a great point though in that maybe we shouldn't talk about it as flawed vs unflawed but more so, least flawed.
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pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $6629447	Well and the other issue is you always view your own team through a different lens than the rest of the league. Ironically the Chiefs are the lone exception right now where even non-fans are super picky about them because it's way more fun to come up with reasons they may lose than keep talking about why they probably won't. But you're just always gonna be a lot more privy to your own team's problems while maybe ignoring another teams unless it's super glaring.
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