My Annual "Screw the Chiefs" Mock

[DJ's left nut]

This isn't what I think will happen -- this is just me breaking every tie by making a decision that the Chiefs wouldn't like.

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Still leaves a fair number of solid options out there for us. I went with Scourton there but I could've pushed him up a bit and taken him off our board. I just couldn't really figure a way to do it that didn't free up someone else that I think I liked better.

[DJ's left nut]

Okay -- so I was able to make things a little dodgier for us.

I pushed Scourton up to Baltimore and left Pearce on the board (who we won't even consider taking).

Then I had Washington taking Mykel Williams which pushed Buffalo into taking JT Tuimoloau.

That left Hampton, Pearce and Sanders as guys I expect will probably get taken before then still on the board.

So at that point my board is left with Tyleik Williams, Hampton, Zabel, Booker, Landon Jackson, Trey Amos and Henderson.

In short...that's probably a trade-down board. You hope someone wants Sanders and the Eagles are excited enough about Zabel and/or Amos that they're unwilling to move off that 32 spot. Or maybe they want Tyliek to pair with Carter and won't move because they know they'll get him at 32 by staying put if the Chiefs trade back.

Or hell, maybe we just take Hampton or Williams.

But that's about as messy as I could make the board for us.

[kcbubb]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I pushed Scourton up to Baltimore and left Pearce on the board (who we won't even consider taking).

Then I had Washington taking Mykel Williams which pushed Buffalo into taking JT Tuimoloau.

That left Hampton, Pearce and Sanders as guys I expect will probably get taken before then still on the board.

So at that point my board is left with Tyleik Williams, Hampton, Zabel, Booker, Landon Jackson, Trey Amos and Henderson.

In short...that's probably a trade-down board.

I’d take Hampton. He’d instantly help Mahomes. Play action would actually work. It would also help Jaylon Moore. Hampton is closer to Jonathan Taylor than CEH. Hampton is a better prospect than a young Kareem Hunt. Hampton could change this offense if Andy would run the ball. We could keep defenses honest.

[Dunerdr]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

I’d take Hampton. He’d instantly help Mahomes. Play action would actually work. It would also help Jaylon Moore. Hampton is closer to Jonathan Taylor than CEH. Hampton is a better prospect than a young Kareem Hunt. Hampton could change this offense if Andy would run the ball. We could keep defenses honest.

But there's still a ton of RB's on the board, nearly all of them. So it makes more sense if you have them graded close to take a swing on a more expensive and harder to fill positions.

Believe me I'm probably the biggest Hampton fan on the board. he's been my wish since the season ended. Just saying it probably doesn't make sense.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

I’d take Hampton. He’d instantly help Mahomes. Play action would actually work. It would also help Jaylon Moore. Hampton is closer to Jonathan Taylor than CEH. Hampton is a better prospect than a young Kareem Hunt. Hampton could change this offense if Andy would run the ball. We could keep defenses honest.

Hampton is more floor than ceiling to me.

I think there's a 70% chance that he's a starting RB and gets a 2nd contract in the league. That's an awfully high floor.

But I think there's maybe a 10% chance where he's good enough to make teams think "man, we need to give him more attention and force.....Patrick Mahomes....to beat us..."

If I'm taking a 1st round RB for this team, I care FAR more about the ceiling. The floor is largely immaterial. If you can't force teams to adjust how they defend the pass, I don't need you in the 1st round. You're not a force multiplier at that point.

And I don't think Hampton can do that.

So I'd rather take the chance on Henderson who's odds of being a starting RB are lower than Hamptons but who's odds of being a DYNAMIC starting RB are higher than Hamptons.

Using the hockey scale I found years back where the Number is the ceiling and the letter is the odds of reaching it I'd say:

Hampton: 7.5(B)
Henderson: 9(C)

For this team at this time, I'm going to put far more emphasis on the number than the letter.

[VAChief]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

This isn't what I think will happen -- this is just me breaking every tie by making a decision that the Chiefs wouldn't like.

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Still leaves a fair number of solid options out there for us. I went with Scourton there but I could've pushed him up a bit and taken him off our board. I just couldn't really figure a way to do it that didn't free up someone else that I think I liked better.

If it fell like this for us, it might be worth it to get on the phone to Cleveland or New York to see if they would like to move back up into the 1st for Sanders or Dart. It's only a couple of spots back and if we could get a 4th in return we could get fill more holes and have more leverage to target the top 100 guys on their board.

[kccrow]

I think Veach would be all over the phones trying to move up for Conerly or Mykel Williams if it fell this way.

Also, I see no world in which both Sanders and Dart fall to round 2.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I think Veach would be all over the phones trying to move up for Conerly or Mykel Williams if it fell this way.

Also, I see no world in which both Sanders and Dart fall to round 2.

Agreed. Like I said -- this isn't what I think will happen. It's just me trying to make the board as ugly as possible with a reasonable eye on what could really take place. It's a thought exercise more than a prediction.

And yes, I think they'd be looking to trade up for Williams in the Washington spot.

I don't think he's moving up to 24 for Conerly though. I don't see it as even being a long-shot. It's not really in my mind at all. Hell, if he went up to 24 on that board, I think he'd take Harmon.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Agreed. Like I said -- this isn't what I think will happen. It's just me trying to make the board as ugly as possible with a reasonable eye on what could really take place. It's a thought exercise more than a prediction.

And yes, I think they'd be looking to trade up for Williams in the Washington spot.

I don't think he's moving up to 24 for Conerly though. I don't see it as even being a long-shot. It's not really in my mind at all. Hell, if he went up to 24 on that board, I think he'd take Harmon.

I look at every mock as a thought exercise. None will be perfect, and this one isn't wholly unreasonable, sans maybe projecting Simmons to Pittsburgh after they took OTs in back-to-back 1st rounds with Jones and Fautanu.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I look at every mock as a thought exercise. None will be perfect, and this one isn't wholly unreasonable, sans maybe projecting Simmons to Pittsburgh after they took OTs in back-to-back 1st rounds with Jones and Fautanu.

Yeah, I did that with the thought that they don't really seem to love Jones and could see Simmons as an intriguing option to redshirt behind him for a season before potentially taking over for him.

I mean they don't have a QB. Which means 1 of two things -- they could reach for Sanders or Dart. Or it could mean that they're willing to sacrifice this season, maybe take someone like Shough or McCord a little later and see if he develops while trying to build around a potential QB pick the following season.

They're a tough team to figure.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Yeah, I did that with the thought that they don't really seem to love Jones and could see Simmons as an intriguing option to redshirt behind him for a season before potentially taking over for him.

I mean they don't have a QB. Which means 1 of two things -- they could reach for Sanders or Dart. Or it could mean that they're willing to sacrifice this season, maybe take someone like Shough or McCord a little later and see if he develops while trying to build around a potential QB pick the following season.

They're a tough team to figure.

They like Harmon from everything I've seen. They need an upgrade over Loudermilk in the worst way, and Heyward is 35 years old. I can't see them passing on an upgrade at DE.

I think I had them taking Shemar Stewart and having him bulk back up to 290 in my mock.

[DJ's left nut]

I'm not quite there with THAT board. I'd be fine with Scourton instead of a move back.

But much beyond that and I'd have to listen. Landon Jackson and Tyleik Williams would be the best DEs and DTs respectively, IMO. There just isn't an OT worth consideration there.

Honestly, my favorite player in that remaining pool is probably Zabel -- I think he's going to be a really good OG. But if you're considering positional value, I think you have to consider CB with Amos, Hariston, Revel or Harrison.

It would be a pretty gross board. I think if things were falling like that you'd have to get on the phone with Washington and look to move up.

[RunKC]

Derrick Harmon at 24? Man. I would try to get him. Worth the trade up cost IMO.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Derrick Harmon at 24? Man. I would try to get him. Worth the trade up cost IMO.

Depends on the medicals though, right?

If that concern is legit (no idea if it is), that would be hard to move up for.

Different if he just falls into your lap though.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

Depends on the medicals though, right?

If that concern is legit (no idea if it is), that would be hard to move up for.

Different if he just falls into your lap though.

I mean at this point, several things seem to be up in the air.

Will Johnson didn't test terribly well and now he has a medical issue. That kid could fall like a rock.

I just kept shrugging and passing him up for several picks past where it looked like he'd go until I hit a fit with TB that seemed like a little too much value to pass on. But if there's a 'surprise' fall from a consensus 1st rounder, Will Johnson would be my guy.