Why not move Shields to RT and Welby to RG?

BigChiefFan · 09-14-2004, 12:08 PM

Just a thought, but Shields did a very good job when he played LT, he already plays the right side so convential wisdom says he might be even better as a RT compared to LT. Welbourne has taken the majority of his regular season snaps as a guard, so why not try it? IMO, it couldn't hurt because Welby is struggling as the RT. Thoughts?

booger · 09-14-2004, 12:30 PM

Nope.

We do alot of pulling with all of our lineman especially guards, and Shields is one of the best at what he does. Either Welbourn will get it or Bober will get some reps at RT.

Calcountry · 09-14-2004, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by booger

Nope.

We do alot of pulling with all of our lineman especially guards, and Shields is one of the best at what he does. Either Welbourn will get it or Bober will get some reps at RT.

I guess Tait is going to be missed more than we thought. :

htismaqe · 09-15-2004, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by bunnytrdr

I guess Tait is going to be missed more than we thought. :

Go watch last year's game at Mile High. Welbourn struggled, but nobody should be missing Taint.

**morphius** · 09-14-2004, 12:31 PM

I have been wondering the same thing all offseason honestly. The only thing I can think of is because he might not have the reach they want, but I don't know.

**Skip Towne** · 09-14-2004, 12:35 PM

You'll need to clear this move with DV.

TRR · 09-14-2004, 12:34 PM

Sorry to be so blunt, but that is a very dumb idea. How many years has Shields been playing RG? Talk about srewing up a consistent thing.

You don't move lineman around. You find a spot for them, and that's where they play. Roaf, Waters, Wieigmann, and Shields are all cemented and used to each other. Don't move them around.

Like someone said earlier, Welbourn (no E at the end) will pick it up in the passing game, or Bober will step in.

**morphius** · 09-14-2004, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR

Sorry to be so blunt, but that is a very dumb idea. How many years has Shields been playing RG? Talk about srewing up a consistent thing.

You don't move lineman around. You find a spot for them, and that's where they play. Roaf, Waters, Wieigmann, and Shields are all cemented and used to each other. Don't move them around.

Like someone said earlier, Welbourn (no E at the end) will pick it up in the passing game, or Bober will step in.

Wasn't Welborn a guard?

Mr. Laz · 09-14-2004, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by morphius

Wasn't Welborn a guard?

yes....

and yes, we should of put Welborn at guard and shields at right tackle from the very beginning on the year. i figured that the chiefs were going to do that and said as much back when they made the trade.

but now it's too late ... you dont wanna jack around with a bunch of offensive line moves during the season.

**morphius** · 09-14-2004, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by lazarus

yes....

and yes, we should of put Welborn at guard and shields at right tackle from the very beginning on the year. i figured that the chiefs were going to do that and said as much back when they made the trade.

but now it's too late ... you dont wanna jack around with a bunch of offensive line moves during the season.

Thats pretty much how I feel as well.

Mark M · 09-14-2004, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by lazarus

yes....

and yes, we should of put Welborn at guard and shields at right tackle from the very beginning on the year. i figured that the chiefs were going to do that and said as much back when they made the trade.

but now it's too late ... you dont wanna jack around with a bunch of offensive line moves during the season.

Exactly.

While I see what BCF is getting out, and have to give him credit for some creative thinking, I say Welbourn will be find once he adjusts to the new position.

After all, it's not like Tait never got burned, especially against a great DLineman like Pryce (who, IIRC was a Chief at one time, wasn't he? Or am I wrong on that?).

MM
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BigChiefFan · 09-14-2004, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR

Sorry to be so blunt, but that is a very dumb idea. How many years has Shields been playing RG? Talk about srewing up a consistent thing.

You don't move lineman around. You find a spot for them, and that's where they play. Roaf, Waters, Wieigmann, and Shields are all cemented and used to each other. Don't move them around.

Like someone said earlier, Welbourn (no E at the end) will pick it up in the passing game, or Bober will step in.

Very dumb move? How can this be a dumb move when we have actually moved Shields to LT before? I don't think you are being objective or open-minded enough. I'm not saying to give up on Welby, but we can't continue to struggle and lose games because of one players struggles. It's just a thought and one that has some merit to it.

Chiefnj · 09-14-2004, 05:08 PM

You don't move a guard to tackle. That would be dumb. Oh wait, that's what we did with Welbourn.

I think they will certainly consider doing it if Peppers has a big game and forces Trent to play like he did against the Broncos.

I'm still of the opinion that Green got his bell rung on the big pass play and was a bit air headed the rest of the game.

whoman69 · 09-14-2004, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR

Sorry to be so blunt, but that is a very dumb idea. How many years has Shields been playing RG? Talk about srewing up a consistent thing.

You don't move lineman around. You find a spot for them, and that's where they play. Roaf, Waters, Wieigmann, and Shields are all cemented and used to each other. Don't move them around.

Like someone said earlier, Welbourn (no E at the end) will pick it up in the passing game, or Bober will step in.

You adopted this guy. You're supposed to defend him more than that.

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TRR The Priest and I Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: CO Casino cash: $9420185	Sorry to be so blunt, but that is a very dumb idea. How many years has Shields been playing RG? Talk about srewing up a consistent thing. You don't move lineman around. You find a spot for them, and that's where they play. Roaf, Waters, Wieigmann, and Shields are all cemented and used to each other. Don't move them around. Like someone said earlier, Welbourn (no E at the end) will pick it up in the passing game, or Bober will step in.
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Chiefnj MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Willis, Harris and Davis. Casino cash: $10004900	You don't move a guard to tackle. That would be dumb. Oh wait, that's what we did with Welbourn. I think they will certainly consider doing it if Peppers has a big game and forces Trent to play like he did against the Broncos. I'm still of the opinion that Green got his bell rung on the big pass play and was a bit air headed the rest of the game. __________________ "I always tell (the assistant coaches), 'Make it simple, 'cause I'm stupid,'" Edwards said. "This ain't computer football." Herm Edwards, 3-20-07 Q: Herm, back on December 25th you were asked if Trent Green was your starter going into next season and you said, ‘yeah, why wouldn’t he be?’ Have you changed your mind on that? EDWARDS: No, I have not.” (1-11-07)
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