Stick a fork in them..

**The Bad Guy** · 09-19-2004, 02:16 PM

Vermeil, Peterson and whatever else front office moron that felt the need to stand pat this off-season should be ashamed of themselves.

This team is finished for 2004.

A injury rattled team came into Arrowhead and took the Chiefs lunch money. They beat the hell out of them in every aspect of the game.

The fact you finish on average of 30th in the NFL in a 3 year period and stand pat on defense is completely disgusting.

The fact that you WON'T go out and acquire a receiver to help this offense is going to be the death of it. The offense was one of the best the last two years, but defenses adjust and change. But this offense never has. They have never gone out to get another weapon.

It's called standing pat, and the Chiefs did it offensively and defensively and they deserve to finish 6-10.

This team deserves to fail because the front office from the president/ceo, to the director of college scouting to the head coach have set this team up for failure.

How many years can we have lousy drafts. We haven't had a good first round draft pick since 1999.

Gunther isn't the problem. The problem is we have some of the worst defensive talent ever assembled on defense. Look at our linebackers, they are pitiful. Shawn Barber is a joke. Fujita whiffs on everything. Beisel is a tweener - which should be the slogan for our defense because they are all tweeners.

Warfield's alright, McCleon is bad. Jerome Woods is the invisible man. He's not a real Pro Bowler. He's flat out horrible. I'm sick of listening to people praise this guy when he sucks.

Hicks has done nothing. Hell, the only player that played worth a damn is Lional Dalton.

This season is going to be a long one. But I'm done worrying and being angry about this team. They pull the company line that they are cashed out and have no money to do anything, well my nerves are shot and I'm done having high expectations only to be dissapointed.

If Carolina can come in and take it to this team with half their offensive firepower on the sideline, that should tell you something.

This defense doesn't make plays, they turn running backs into players.

Vermeil's stubborness is the biggest achilies heel of this team. It's a shame he has put Gunther in the position to fail with the same scabs.

I just don't get it. Vermeil said the players lost the Colts game, and then admits he's reluctant to fire G-Rob, but yet he keeps the same players around. The logic doesn't make sense.

But this organization has never made sense.

I'm done venting now. Flame away, homers.

Sure-Oz · 09-19-2004, 02:20 PM

I fully agree with you!

teedubya · 09-19-2004, 02:25 PM

Man, It sure is great to be a KC fan... Hype galore... and never showing up. The Royals had high hopes... but no. The Chiefs same deal. Man. This makes me not even want to visit any freaking Chiefs websites... including this one. It sucks to be Chiefs fans on this sad day.

Michael Michigan · 09-19-2004, 02:28 PM

At least the stands were full.

Think of the cash they took in on parking alone.

**the Talking Can** · 09-19-2004, 02:32 PM

CP has to go

KHinz57 · 09-19-2004, 02:37 PM

Don't pull a hamstring jumping off the bandwagon! Jeez, does everyone forget how the New England Patriots started the season 0-2 last year, and we all know what happened!

**The Bad Guy** · 09-19-2004, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KHinz57

Don't pull a hamstring jumping off the bandwagon! Jeez, does everyone forget how the New England Patriots started the season 0-2 last year, and we all know what happened!

No, the New England Patriots didn't start 0-2 last year.

If you really think you can compare the Patriots and the Chiefs situations than your an even bigger homer than I ever imagined.

I personally love it when a team sucks and then fans try to compare what happened to another team and think that the exact same can happen.

New England knew how to tackle. They know how to play defense. The Patriots have receivers that can catch the ball.

The Chiefs don't.

**Skip Towne** · 09-19-2004, 02:53 PM

Hey, it's not all negative, we sold a million dollars worth of beer.

Sure-Oz · 09-19-2004, 02:37 PM

Patriots also had a speck of a defense as well.

**The Bad Guy** · 09-19-2004, 02:42 PM

And let me add that while I was at training camp, this team didn't do one single tackling drill.

In fact, Ivan Carter told me that they haven't really done them in any camp since Vermeil started.

I hardly think that's a coincidence to why this defense couldn't stop my grandmother.

1adam1238 · 09-19-2004, 02:43 PM

for you ****ing info...the pats didn't start 0-2 last year.....they lost there third game.

**Baby Lee** · 09-19-2004, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1adam1238

for you ****ing info...the pats didn't start 0-2 last year.....they lost there third game.

Lost their first on the road, Buff. Won at Philly. Won at home, Jets. Lost at Wash. Started 2-2.

Joe Seahawk · 09-19-2004, 02:46 PM

Chief fans deserve better.. Front office appears to have made a big mistake thinking Gunther alone would be enough to improve your D..

It's a damn shame to see this offense cheated by such shoddy defense..

VonneMarie · 09-19-2004, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Seahawk

Chief fans deserve better.. Front office appears to have made a big mistake thinking Gunther alone would be enough to improve your D..

It's a damn shame to see this offense cheated by such shoddy defense..

What offense? Did you see them today?

KCN · 09-19-2004, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sky

What offense? Did you see them today?

That's what I was thinking. The offense so far has not able to get into that groove it had last year to make up for our incompetent defense. Combine that with the toughest schedule I've ever seen...this is going to be a long ass season.

But hey, better we figure this out now before I waste all my time getting hyped up like last year. I'm graduating in december so it's nice to know that if I have to work hard on a Sunday that I won't be missing anything.

Even so, I'm not jumping ship. I'll still wear my red every Sunday, and continue to be the lone voice yelling for the Chiefs at the sports bar down here in TX.

09-19-2004, 02:16 PM	Topic Starter
The Bad Guy Scott Pioli Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Copacobana Casino cash: $9283645	Stick a fork in them.. Vermeil, Peterson and whatever else front office moron that felt the need to stand pat this off-season should be ashamed of themselves. This team is finished for 2004. A injury rattled team came into Arrowhead and took the Chiefs lunch money. They beat the hell out of them in every aspect of the game. The fact you finish on average of 30th in the NFL in a 3 year period and stand pat on defense is completely disgusting. The fact that you WON'T go out and acquire a receiver to help this offense is going to be the death of it. The offense was one of the best the last two years, but defenses adjust and change. But this offense never has. They have never gone out to get another weapon. It's called standing pat, and the Chiefs did it offensively and defensively and they deserve to finish 6-10. This team deserves to fail because the front office from the president/ceo, to the director of college scouting to the head coach have set this team up for failure. How many years can we have lousy drafts. We haven't had a good first round draft pick since 1999. Gunther isn't the problem. The problem is we have some of the worst defensive talent ever assembled on defense. Look at our linebackers, they are pitiful. Shawn Barber is a joke. Fujita whiffs on everything. Beisel is a tweener - which should be the slogan for our defense because they are all tweeners. Warfield's alright, McCleon is bad. Jerome Woods is the invisible man. He's not a real Pro Bowler. He's flat out horrible. I'm sick of listening to people praise this guy when he sucks. Hicks has done nothing. Hell, the only player that played worth a damn is Lional Dalton. This season is going to be a long one. But I'm done worrying and being angry about this team. They pull the company line that they are cashed out and have no money to do anything, well my nerves are shot and I'm done having high expectations only to be dissapointed. If Carolina can come in and take it to this team with half their offensive firepower on the sideline, that should tell you something. This defense doesn't make plays, they turn running backs into players. Vermeil's stubborness is the biggest achilies heel of this team. It's a shame he has put Gunther in the position to fail with the same scabs. I just don't get it. Vermeil said the players lost the Colts game, and then admits he's reluctant to fire G-Rob, but yet he keeps the same players around. The logic doesn't make sense. But this organization has never made sense. I'm done venting now. Flame away, homers.
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The Bad Guy Scott Pioli Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Copacobana Casino cash: $9283645	And let me add that while I was at training camp, this team didn't do one single tackling drill. In fact, Ivan Carter told me that they haven't really done them in any camp since Vermeil started. I hardly think that's a coincidence to why this defense couldn't stop my grandmother. __________________
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09-19-2004, 02:46 PM	#13
Joe Seahawk This place entertains.. Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Seattle Casino cash: $5484435	Chief fans deserve better.. Front office appears to have made a big mistake thinking Gunther alone would be enough to improve your D.. It's a damn shame to see this offense cheated by such shoddy defense..
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