Current Players that are killing the Chiefs

**ChiTown** · 09-20-2004, 10:27 AM

other than the opposing teams RB's. Here's a group that needs to find their game, or find the exit:

Roaf - Willie looks horribly slow. I don't know if he's just old or is nursing an injury, but he's got to get his shit together. I don't know if Bober can play LT, but that might be an option until Wilie gets his game back in order.

Morton - Looks uninspired, slow to his routes and just all round bad. Dude has got to find some game, and bring it on more than just 2-3 plays.

Hall - Is Dante wearing ballet slippers? How many more times is he going slip and to trip himself up. I'm not asking for a TD return, I just want better balance from a guy who makes a living in the return game.

Hicks - Stop talking and start producing. I'm sick of this pussy. He scored a huge contract and has been worthless ever since. Say what you want, but his lack of killer instinct is a big reason we suck along the DL

Sims - We might as well plant a tree at LDT. At least a tree provides shade in the afternoon.............I think we can officially call this a wasted pick.

Barber - Hello, is anybody home? If you've seen Shawn, tell him we'd like for him to make a tackle. Getting one's hands on a player doesn't mean he's down. This isn't touch Shawn, it's tackle. Rap the fugger up and bring him down like a man.

McCleon - Dex had a nice season, last year. He looks gawd awful this year. We have to have him step up. Julian Battle, Will Bart and Sapp are just of no use to this team right now. This spot scares the crap outta me.

DV and the Staff - Show some fugging balls. Take a few chances, and stop playing like this offense is a juggernaut - cuz it ain't. Go for the 4th downs, stop playing like we always have a lead, and show something, anything that tells us you're alive! You and Your merry band of overpaid idiots need a gut check. Get it together during the week, and bring it to the field on Sundays. Nuff said.

David. · 09-20-2004, 10:29 AM

Hicks signed a relatively small contract this season.

**ChiTown** · 09-20-2004, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by David.

Hicks signed a relatively small contract this season.

I was talking about the contract he signed after his blow out 14 sack season of 2000. Seriously, he's been worthless since then.

htismaqe · 09-20-2004, 10:38 AM

What game were you watching? Sims was double-teamed quite often, and even when he was he split them a couple of times.

David. · 09-20-2004, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

What game were you watching? Sims was double-teamed quite often, and even when he was he split them a couple of times.

ssshhhh you'll wake him from his dream world.

**BigRedChief** · 09-20-2004, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

What game were you watching? Sims was double-teamed quite often, and even when he was he split them a couple of times.

I was there and saw it. Sims didn't play bad at all. But Dalton and Salivi made some plays that Sims didn't and they were double teamed also. The jury is still out on the "bust or not" decision on Sims but it's not looking good for the 6th pick in the draft.

**ShortRoundChief** · 09-20-2004, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I was there and saw it. Sims didn't play bad at all. But Dalton and Salivi made some plays that Sims didn't and they were double teamed also. The jury is still out on the "bust or not" decision on Sims but it's not looking good for the 6th pick in the draft.

Um guys here's the kicker. If you have a dl who's getting double teamed shouldn't one of the guys whose not be the one expected to make the plays.

htismaqe · 09-20-2004, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

Um guys here's the kicker. If you have a dl who's getting double teamed shouldn't one of the guys whose not be the one expected to make the plays.

Yeah, when DT's get double-teamed you expect the DE's to make plays.

Unfortunately, we don't have any real DE's.

**ShortRoundChief** · 09-20-2004, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Yeah, when DT's get double-teamed you expect the DE's to make plays.

Unfortunately, we don't have any real DE's.

Sheesh, haven't you heard Hicks talk.
He's the second coming of Reggie White.

**ChiTown** · 09-20-2004, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

What game were you watching? Sims was double-teamed quite often, and even when he was he split them a couple of times.

Uh, he wasn't double teamed all day, htis. He had a lot of opportunities and cashed in on none. He's THE guy. At some point, when he has the chance, he has to do something.

David, look junior, I'm not dreaming, I saw what I saw and he was manhandled in single coverage as well.

htismaqe · 09-20-2004, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

Uh, he wasn't double teamed all day, htis. He had a lot of opportunities and cashed in on none. He's THE guy. At some point, when he has the chance, he has to do something.

David, look junior, I'm not dreaming, I saw what I saw and he was manhandled in single coverage as well.

I never said he was double-teamed "all day". I said he was double-teamed "quite often" and he was. He also broke a couple of them.

I'm not saying he's a world-beater, but he's looking better each game. He was one of the guys who suffered most under Robinson.

jspchief · 09-20-2004, 10:45 AM

My biggest beef this week may have been Morton, and really all of our WRs. None of these guys attacks the ball. None of them act like they want it more than the defender. I'm watching receivers all over the league that are ripping balls out the air and coming back to passes, while our guys run their routes with their hands out and expect the ball to land in them.

Age has to be part of it. These guys just aren't as hungry. Hall will never be any real threat (as I've said all along). I'm ready to see Richard Smith in on every down. he may have dropped those passes, but on at least two of them he actually looked like he wanted it. He actually jumped for a high pass (gasp!) and came back to the ball (what a concept!).

DanT · 09-20-2004, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

My biggest beef this week may have been Morton, and really all of our WRs. None of these guys attacks the ball. None of them act like they want it more than the defender. I'm watching receivers all over the league that are ripping balls out the air and coming back to passes, while our guys run their routes with their hands out and expect the ball to land in them.

Age has to be part of it. These guys just aren't as hungry. Hall will never be any real threat (as I've said all along). I'm ready to see Richard Smith in on every down. he may have dropped those passes, but on at least two of them he actually looked like he wanted it. He actually jumped for a high pass (gasp!) and came back to the ball (what a concept!).

Yeah, I've been pretty disappointed with Morton for a while now. I'd heard that he was a solid performer from some Lions fans and was expecting him to be quietly excellent in the ways that the fans of a team recognize in a player even when he doesn't put up flashy numbers. But Morton has done little to impress me with his play. This year he's been very unimpressive. I wasn't sure what his deal was, but yesterday I saw a replay on a ball thrown to him that told me a lot. I saw the game on mute in a sports bar so I don't know if it was commented upon by the announcers, but he just totally punked out on a ball that was thrown to him over the middle in traffic.

I'm still hopeful about Hall as receiver. He has the kind of talent in the open-field that I expect he can learn to get separation from defenders.

Yesterday reminded me of the Chiefs' anemic offenses of, say, the 1996 season. I used to think that games were won at the line of scrimmage and that you can just plug in moderately good talent at the skill positions and still get good performances as long as you dominate the line. I've grown past that notion. There's a big damn drop-off between elite skill players and the overall replacement-level stuff that occupies the 2nd and 3rd-string on most rosters, it now seems to me.

I don't know if the other Chiefs' receivers are atacking the ball or not. Morton sure wasn't on that one play. I'm pretty confident that Green is capable of delivering the ball where it can be caught, so whatever problem there is with our passing game must lie with the receivers' lack of skills, but I don't know what skills each of them lacks.

On the other hand, my opinions on receivers aren't all that great. When Joe Horn played for us, I was convinced that he lacked the football smarts to excel in the NFL, based on a handful of plays in which he failed to try to bail out a quarterback flushed out of the pocket by coming back toward the ball. He sure proved me wrong with his subsequent play in New Orleans!

JimNasium · 09-20-2004, 10:47 AM

The whole team is sleepwalking. The only guy playing with any passion is Priest.

**penguinz** · 09-20-2004, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JimNasium

The whole team is sleepwalking. The only guy playing with any passion is Priest.

If he was playing with passion he would stop saying he does not want to be part of the passing game. He should want teh ball no matter how he gets it.

09-20-2004, 10:27 AM	Topic Starter
ChiTown Stroking to the SB Champs! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Flatlands of Kansas Casino cash: $-491038	Current Players that are killing the Chiefs other than the opposing teams RB's. Here's a group that needs to find their game, or find the exit: Roaf - Willie looks horribly slow. I don't know if he's just old or is nursing an injury, but he's got to get his shit together. I don't know if Bober can play LT, but that might be an option until Wilie gets his game back in order. Morton - Looks uninspired, slow to his routes and just all round bad. Dude has got to find some game, and bring it on more than just 2-3 plays. Hall - Is Dante wearing ballet slippers? How many more times is he going slip and to trip himself up. I'm not asking for a TD return, I just want better balance from a guy who makes a living in the return game. Hicks - Stop talking and start producing. I'm sick of this pussy. He scored a huge contract and has been worthless ever since. Say what you want, but his lack of killer instinct is a big reason we suck along the DL Sims - We might as well plant a tree at LDT. At least a tree provides shade in the afternoon.............I think we can officially call this a wasted pick. Barber - Hello, is anybody home? If you've seen Shawn, tell him we'd like for him to make a tackle. Getting one's hands on a player doesn't mean he's down. This isn't touch Shawn, it's tackle. Rap the fugger up and bring him down like a man. McCleon - Dex had a nice season, last year. He looks gawd awful this year. We have to have him step up. Julian Battle, Will Bart and Sapp are just of no use to this team right now. This spot scares the crap outta me. DV and the Staff - Show some fugging balls. Take a few chances, and stop playing like this offense is a juggernaut - cuz it ain't. Go for the 4th downs, stop playing like we always have a lead, and show something, anything that tells us you're alive! You and Your merry band of overpaid idiots need a gut check. Get it together during the week, and bring it to the field on Sundays. Nuff said.
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09-20-2004, 10:29 AM	#2
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htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $8139900	What game were you watching? Sims was double-teamed quite often, and even when he was he split them a couple of times.
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jspchief BAMF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Your Face Casino cash: $9998710	My biggest beef this week may have been Morton, and really all of our WRs. None of these guys attacks the ball. None of them act like they want it more than the defender. I'm watching receivers all over the league that are ripping balls out the air and coming back to passes, while our guys run their routes with their hands out and expect the ball to land in them. Age has to be part of it. These guys just aren't as hungry. Hall will never be any real threat (as I've said all along). I'm ready to see Richard Smith in on every down. he may have dropped those passes, but on at least two of them he actually looked like he wanted it. He actually jumped for a high pass (gasp!) and came back to the ball (what a concept!). __________________ Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all.
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