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Old 09-22-2004, 10:03 AM   Topic Starter
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Mort says it's NOT the scheme....
...it's the talent of the players...and poor tackling that is the problem on the Chiefs D. Check out today's Mort chat on ESPN for link. There you have it. I trust Mort more than a lot of football analysts...although most of us knew that already. Let's face it...time for Carl to draft a stud d player...not a tweener, project, or reach anymore.
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Old 09-22-2004, 10:06 AM   #2
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what he said...
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Well, we can't keep blaming it on the scheme and you certainly can't point the finger at Greg Robinson anymore. You have to point the finger at the players. Either they fall short in talent or they are underachievers. Yes, tackling is a problem
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Old 09-22-2004, 10:15 AM   #3
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Tackling is the biggest problem, there were many times they had Foster stopped at the line and then he broke tackles to gain 8 yards, wrap up you morons!
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Old 09-22-2004, 10:19 AM   #4
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Mort says it's NOT the scheme.......it's the talent of the players...
im shocked... you mean we should of added talent this offseason to the defense?!?
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Old 09-22-2004, 10:19 AM   #5
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Scheme is working great, we got in the backfield all day against Carolina, just didn't wrap up and make the tackle. We do that and our defense would improve my leaps and bounds.
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Old 09-22-2004, 10:41 AM   #6
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Scheme is working great, we got in the backfield all day against Carolina, just didn't wrap up and make the tackle. We do that and our defense would improve my leaps and bounds.
I would agree with this. I see the Chiefs defensive players in the right position to make the play now more than ever. It's a matter of finishing the job.
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Old 09-22-2004, 10:21 AM   #7
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... Let's face it...time for Carl to draft a stud d player...not a tweener, project, or reach anymore.
What was the 6th pick in the draft (Sims) suppose to be?

Were we not sold the bill of goods on Barber. He was a top flight LB in the NFL?

That Mcleon was good enough. We didn't need to draft a corner. We needed a project DT worse.
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Old 09-22-2004, 10:23 AM   #8
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It's neither scheme nor talent. It's a lack of execution.
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Old 09-22-2004, 10:27 AM   #9
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It's neither scheme nor talent. It's a lack of execution.
Isn't lack of execution a reflection of the talent??
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Old 09-22-2004, 10:29 AM   #10
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Isn't lack of execution a reflection of the talent??
and coaching
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Old 09-22-2004, 10:44 AM   #11
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Isn't lack of execution a reflection of the talent??
Not IMO.
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Old 09-22-2004, 10:40 AM   #12
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How many actually thought that the talent level was there to be a top tier D?

I didn't.

My problem with Spinner's scheme was that his passive approach allowed teams to get back into games after the Chiefs O scored some points.

I want to see Gun's scheme in action when the Chiefs get some points and have a lead.

Gun will attack and force some mistakes.

Clearly the talent level has to be improved, but I thought Gun's attacking style, combined with a high octane O would be able to mask some of the talent deficiencies on D.

So far we haven't had an opportunity to see that.
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Old 09-22-2004, 10:47 AM   #13
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I want to see Gun's scheme in action when the Chiefs get some points and have a lead.
imo we haven't seen gun's attacking defense in action is because he found out, just like Greg Rob/inson found out, that our secondary isn't good enough to cover behind a blitz.
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Old 09-22-2004, 11:06 AM   #14
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imo we haven't seen gun's attacking defense in action is because he found out, just like Greg Rob/inson found out, that our secondary isn't good enough to cover behind a blitz.
Could be.

But it could also be that he can't just ignore the run while the teams are still in the game, so he can't attack the QB.

If teams have to play catch up, then the QB would get less time in the pocket, and the DBs that can't cover (Dexter) wouldn't be forced to try and maintain coverage for as long.
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Could be.

But it could also be that he can't just ignore the run while the teams are still in the game, so he can't attack the QB.

If teams have to play catch up, then the QB would get less time in the pocket, and the DBs that can't cover (Dexter) wouldn't be forced to try and maintain coverage for as long.
yea...


imo he needs to stop his linebackers from charging at the snap of the ball.


i think this is by design


it's part of the reason the linebackers overcommit and get caught out of position.


the linebackers also line up too far inside ... allowing teams to use a counter-step inside ... then catch the corner on running play with consistancy.
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