Kiper: Trading for Jameson with Pitt

[BigRedChief]

Hey draftniks, just watched a you tube of the show get up on ESPN. Mel Kiper was on saying he thought the Chiefs could give the 1st and 2nd round Miami picks to Pitt at 20 and jump up before the Pats and GB and pick Jameson.

What’s the opinion in here on Jameson? Going higher than 20, say 15 or so?

[Couch-Potato]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

McShay also has us taking a RB in the 2nd round.

He's a ****ing idiot.

Whoa! I see that.

Williams
Mafe
Hall

...that's certainly different. I'd be happy with a legit stud RB, but scared to pull trigger early after CEH. I don't personally know enough about Hall to comment on his game specifically, but hard not to take Ojabo at that 50 spot IMO.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

Whoa! I see that.

Williams
Mafe
Hall

...that's certainly different. I'd be happy with a legit stud RB, but scared to pull trigger early after CEH. I don't personally know enough about Hall to comment on his game specifically, but hard not to take Ojabo at that 50 spot IMO.

Breece Hall is a potential 3-down back and a home run threat. Ran great at the combine, a lot faster than I thought he was.

[Stryker]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Breece Hall is a potential 3-down back and a home run threat. Ran great at the combine, a lot faster than I thought he was.

A BEAST this offense could use...



Would LOVE him in KC! Remember all those goal line stands that we couldn't get it done? Well my peeps here is your answer.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

McShay also has us taking a RB in the 2nd round.

He's a ****ing idiot.

McShay is a former QB, he has a proclivity for prospects on offense

[xztop123]

Jameson’s top speed on camera was faster than hills last season. He also has a way bigger catch radius.

He’s a long strider and has nowhere near the stop start of hill but hills arm length / height were certainly issues with certain routes.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Stryker

A BEAST this offense could use...



Would LOVE him in KC! Remember all those goal line stands that we couldn't get it done? Well my peeps here is your answer.

He's a guy that's currently rated around pick 40. That's just too high to take a RB IMO given team needs. Otherwise, yeah, he'd be awesome in KC.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by xztop123

Jameson’s top speed on camera was faster than hills last season. He also has a way bigger catch radius.

He’s a long strider and has nowhere near the stop start of hill but hills arm length / height were certainly issues with certain routes.

If he falls to 29, great.

If not, hopefully someone else drafts him.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

McShay also has us taking a RB in the 2nd round.

He's a ****ing idiot.

Honestly - I don't HATE the idea of Hall in the 2nd.

it's not exactly the direction I'd go, especially if we went WR in the 1st (and traded up to do so, thus presumably burning substantial draft capital to get there).

But I think Hall could do a lot to clear some chaff off this roster. We wouldn't need to have these 1-trick ponies like Jones and CEH going forward.

Hall's the best overall RB in this draft by a fair margin, IMO. He's going to be a really good player and can do anything we'd ask of him in t his system.

EDIT: NO MAFE IN THE FIRST, DAMMIT! This is a 24 yr old rookie who simply was not a very good player in college. Man that's a wrong-headed decision. That's just ignoring everything this guy put on tape over a 4 year career prior to the Senior Bowl.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Honestly - I don't HATE the idea of Hall in the 2nd.

it's not exactly the direction I'd go, especially if we went WR in the 1st (and traded up to do so, thus presumably burning substantial draft capital to get there).

But I think Hall could do a lot to clear some chaff off this roster. We wouldn't need to have these 1-trick ponies like Jones and CEH going forward.

Hall's the best overall RB in this draft by a fair margin, IMO. He's going to be a really good player and can do anything we'd ask of him in t his system.

If we keep all of our picks, Hall in the 2nd makes a lot of sense, even if I don't particularly love the move.

I feel the same way about Trey McBride, BTW.

They seem like luxury picks but they'd be GOOD luxury picks, so it balances out.

[The Franchise]

Do I think Breece Hall is going to be a good player? Yeah.

Do I think the Chiefs should take a RB in the 2nd round when we have a ton of other needs? **** no.

Grab a guy like Pierre Strong Jr. in the 4th after you've filled some holes and then we'll talk.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Honestly - I don't HATE the idea of Hall in the 2nd.

it's not exactly the direction I'd go, especially if we went WR in the 1st (and traded up to do so, thus presumably burning substantial draft capital to get there).

But I think Hall could do a lot to clear some chaff off this roster. We wouldn't need to have these 1-trick ponies like Jones and CEH going forward.

Hall's the best overall RB in this draft by a fair margin, IMO. He's going to be a really good player and can do anything we'd ask of him in t his system.

EDIT: NO MAFE IN THE FIRST, DAMMIT! This is a 24 yr old rookie who simply was not a very good player in college. Man that's a wrong-headed decision. That's just ignoring everything this guy put on tape over a 4 year career prior to the Senior Bowl.

Could not agree more on Mafe, absolutely no interest in him in the first. Re Hall I want two weapons in this draft so I might be convinced even if we had a R1 WR, but definitely not my preference.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

If he falls to 29, great.

If not, hopefully someone else drafts him.

I mean he's obviously not. He's probably not going below 20. But if he DID somehow drop there I'm honestly amazed how few people seem willing to go up for him.

Not saying it's a home-run or that there aren't legit alternatives like DE, or even that there won't be loads of value later. But the guys people are talking about - Pickens, Moore, Watson, Metchie, Austin - they're not this guy.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by JPH83

I mean he's obviously not. He's probably not going below 20. But if he DID somehow drop there I'm honestly amazed how few people seem willing to go up for him.

Not saying it's a home-run or that there aren't legit alternatives like DE, or even that there won't be loads of value later. But the guys people are talking about - Pickens, Moore, Watson, Metchie, Austin - they're not this guy.

It's also possible that Jameson Williams isn't Jameson Williams after tearing his ACL.

[GloucesterChief]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

Do I think Breece Hall is going to be a good player? Yeah.

Do I think the Chiefs should take a RB in the 2nd round when we have a ton of other needs? **** no.

Grab a guy like Pierre Strong Jr. in the 4th after you've filled some holes and then we'll talk.

Ford or Cook are also good options I think.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

It's also possible that Jameson Williams isn't Jameson Williams after tearing his ACL.

This is true