Internet Gates BBQ sauce recipe - authentic?

**cdcox** · 10-16-2004, 10:06 AM

I don't live in the KC area or I'd just go out and buy some. And yes, I know you can order it through the mail. But I found this recipe for "Gates BBQ sauce" on the internet in several places. Has anyone tried it and found it to be somewhat similar to the original?

Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
-------- ------------ --------------------------------
1 cup sugar
1/4 cup salt
2 tablespoons celery seed
2 tablespoons cumin powder
2 tablespoons Cayenne pepper
2 tablespoons garlic powder
1 tablespoon chili powder
2 quarts Ketchup
2 cups cider vinegar
1 1/2 teaspoons liquid smoke
1 teaspoon lemon juice

Mix together all the spices. Set aside.

Combine the remaining ingredients and then add the spice mixture.
Mix well.

Serve warm or cold. Freezes well.

R&GHomer · 10-16-2004, 10:14 AM

Sorry, don't have a clue.

One question back at ya. With the chili powder, would that be the same stuff you buy in the store and mix with ground beef to make taco's.

KCWolfman · 10-16-2004, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by R&GHomer

Sorry, don't have a clue.

One question back at ya. With the chili powder, would that be the same stuff you buy in the store and mix with ground beef to make taco's.

Yes it is the same.

On Gates, I would doubt the recipe is precise. He pretty well held his cards close to his vest on that one. It may be similar though. Give it a shot and let us know.

R&GHomer · 10-16-2004, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCWolfman

Yes it is the same.

On Gates, I would doubt the recipe is precise. He pretty well held his cards close to his vest on that one. It may be similar though. Give it a shot and let us know.

Thanks Kcwolfman.

I’m really getting pretty good at smoking and it’s time to wean myself off the store bought stuff and start making my own.

R&GHomer · 10-16-2004, 10:43 AM

Try this link for some really good ideas and tips for BBQ.
http://www.eaglequest.com/~bbq/faq2/toc.html

Boozer · 10-16-2004, 11:24 AM

I would be surprised if the real Gates sauce had ketchup in it. By the same token, I bet that recipe makes something that tastes like Gates sauce, at least "close enough for government work."

Uncle_Ted · 10-16-2004, 12:44 PM

I assume the recipe also calls for you to cook it?

I'd say bring it to a soft boil and cook for 20 min or so, stirring constantly.

Ketchup in the recipe doesn't surprise me one bit. Many good sauces are ketchup-based, or a combination of ketchup + tomato paste. The brand of ketchup will make a difference though. I'd recommend DelMonte (not the best ketchup, but makes good sauce).

I don't have any particular knowledge of what's in Gates' sauce, but that all looks about right for a decent BBQ sauce, except you might need to add some water if it comes out too thick (though with all that vinegar it's probably ok).

good luck!

Over-Head · 10-16-2004, 12:50 PM

Gonna try this in about an hour,,,got the charcoal warming up now

**alanm** · 10-16-2004, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Over-Head

Gonna try this in about an hour,,,got the charcoal warming up now

Keep us posted as to the results OH. If all goes well I may try this out also.

**BigRedChief** · 10-16-2004, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Over-Head

Gonna try this in about an hour,,,got the charcoal warming up now

ya gonna boil it on a charcoal grill?

**cdcox** · 10-16-2004, 01:16 PM

The recipe does not call for cooking it, although it does say that it can be served warm.

Overhead, let me know how it comes out, and whether you decide to simmer it or not.

Pitt Gorilla · 10-16-2004, 01:24 PM

That seems like a lot of salt, but it looks like the recipe makes quite a bit. Let us know how it goes!

**buddha** · 05-17-2005, 02:47 PM

L.C.'s Barbeque 5800 Blue Parkway
Kansas city, MO 64129
816-923-4484

Go there and have the brisket and beans...amazingly good BBQ!

**BigRedChief** · 05-17-2005, 02:50 PM

How did it go?

Simplex3 · 05-17-2005, 02:58 PM

I met Olie Gates for about 5 minutes back in '99. We supported his accounting software and he was staring down y2k like everyone else. He carries himself strong and can be intimidating if you don't have your s**t together.

So he shows up 5 minutes late for the meeting, listens for about 5 minutes, stands up in the middle of our sales guy's sentence, and says something to the effect of:

"Gentlemen. I have $500 to spend on this. If it's going to cost me any more than that I'll buy those bitches in accounting pencils and paper. Those don't have date problems."

Then just walks off.

The best part? At the time at least one (maybe two) of "those bitches in accounting" was his daughter.

10-16-2004, 10:06 AM
cdcox www.nfl-forecast.com Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $-588231	Internet Gates BBQ sauce recipe - authentic? I don't live in the KC area or I'd just go out and buy some. And yes, I know you can order it through the mail. But I found this recipe for "Gates BBQ sauce" on the internet in several places. Has anyone tried it and found it to be somewhat similar to the original? Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method -------- ------------ -------------------------------- 1 cup sugar 1/4 cup salt 2 tablespoons celery seed 2 tablespoons cumin powder 2 tablespoons Cayenne pepper 2 tablespoons garlic powder 1 tablespoon chili powder 2 quarts Ketchup 2 cups cider vinegar 1 1/2 teaspoons liquid smoke 1 teaspoon lemon juice Mix together all the spices. Set aside. Combine the remaining ingredients and then add the spice mixture. Mix well. Serve warm or cold. Freezes well.
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10-16-2004, 10:14 AM	#2
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10-16-2004, 10:43 AM	#5
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10-16-2004, 11:24 AM	#6
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10-16-2004, 12:44 PM	#7
Uncle_Ted We're the band! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Chicago Casino cash: $10008915	I assume the recipe also calls for you to cook it? I'd say bring it to a soft boil and cook for 20 min or so, stirring constantly. Ketchup in the recipe doesn't surprise me one bit. Many good sauces are ketchup-based, or a combination of ketchup + tomato paste. The brand of ketchup will make a difference though. I'd recommend DelMonte (not the best ketchup, but makes good sauce). I don't have any particular knowledge of what's in Gates' sauce, but that all looks about right for a decent BBQ sauce, except you might need to add some water if it comes out too thick (though with all that vinegar it's probably ok). good luck!
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10-16-2004, 12:50 PM	#8
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10-16-2004, 01:16 PM	#11
cdcox www.nfl-forecast.com Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $-588231	The recipe does not call for cooking it, although it does say that it can be served warm. Overhead, let me know how it comes out, and whether you decide to simmer it or not.
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05-17-2005, 02:47 PM	#13
buddha You may think you know... Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: California Casino cash: $10006184	L.C.'s Barbeque 5800 Blue Parkway Kansas city, MO 64129 816-923-4484 Go there and have the brisket and beans...amazingly good BBQ!
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05-17-2005, 02:58 PM	#15
Simplex3 MVP Join Date: Sep 2003 Casino cash: $10004900	I met Olie Gates for about 5 minutes back in '99. We supported his accounting software and he was staring down y2k like everyone else. He carries himself strong and can be intimidating if you don't have your s**t together. So he shows up 5 minutes late for the meeting, listens for about 5 minutes, stands up in the middle of our sales guy's sentence, and says something to the effect of: "Gentlemen. I have $500 to spend on this. If it's going to cost me any more than that I'll buy those bitches in accounting pencils and paper. Those don't have date problems." Then just walks off. The best part? At the time at least one (maybe two) of "those bitches in accounting" was his daughter.
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