810 vs 610 on Thigy

[petegz28]

So this afternoon I am driving around and I hear KK going off abou tThigy not being the man and such. Ok, commercial comes so I flip to 610. On 610 they are arguing that Thigy deserves a shot and pointing out the stats pre and post Thigy and such.

You almost wonder if they plan this shit? Anyhow, if KK is so staunch in his opposition of Thigy then I say we definitely need to give Thigy a shot.

So this seems it will be the ongoing argument over the next several weeks. Some people are going to be very pissed off come draft time when we make our first selection.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by kcxiv

Yep, Mecca never acknowledges defenses. Only offense and if you can score on the last drive of the game. He doesnt care if the Defense is ranked 31st or not. I just dont get it at times. Defense defense defense. Defense just cant be corrected overnight as he thinks. We been trying for going on 9 years now.

Don't let the stupidity of the Chiefs fool you here, fixing a defense is much easier than finding a top QB and building an offense especially when you are at the square 1 point the Chiefs are.

[The_Doctor10]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Yea Tyler Thigpen is the worst 4th quarter QB in the NFL...the Chiefs offense in the 2nd halfs in general was complete garbage.

Explain to me why they could only score 30 points when the other team had 38 or 50? So then when the other teams got 22 or 16 they could only muster 20 or say 6.

It's called the entire team being bad.

So fix the aspect of the team that was the most god-awful. Look, if you have a car with two flat tires and a windshield wiper motor that doesn't work, what are you going to fix first? The flat tires, because otherwise your car's a useless hunk of metal. the Chiefs defence turns this team into a useless hunk of metal, not Tyler Thigpen. Who, by the way, is a rookie in almost every respect except he's got one year of practice roster time. Look at Eli's first half-season as a starter. Hell, look at his career until last year. He was a slower, stronger-armed Thigpen. Now he's a super bowl champ. And don't tell me 'At least he was accurate' because prior to the playoffs last season he struggled to get his completion % above 60.

[Mecca]

I consider QB the most important thing on the team building without that is like building a car with no engine.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Don't let the stupidity of the Chiefs fool you here, fixing a defense is much easier than finding a top QB and building an offense especially when you are at the square 1 point the Chiefs are.

Regardless, it still hasnt been fixed in almost 9 years. I thought as did many others, if nothing else Herm was going to at least bring a solid defense to th is team. Hasnt happened.

I think we have to fix that defense. I dont even care if its through free agency. I thinkwe have enough young guys that we can add 2 good free agents to help. Are whole starting 2ndary is drafted. Our whole Dline has been drafted. 1 of our linebackers has been drafted. A few vets wouldnt be bad, but we also need better coaching.

[Mecca]

Well that's what they get for keeping Gunther around.

[The_Doctor10]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I consider QB the most important thing on the team building without that is like building a car with no engine.

You act like Thigpen is somehow Bruce Gradkowski. He's gone through his rookie growing pains this year; you really think stafford or Bradford is going to step in, run a power-I offence and do even half as good as Thigpen?

[HC_Chief]

Originally Posted by Unleash_the_Phury

You act like Thigpen is somehow Bruce Gradkowski. He's gone through his rookie growing pains this year; you really think stafford or Bradford is going to step in, run a power-I offence and do even half as good as Thigpen?

There is the very real possibility they could do much better.

[Que Card QB]

I'm somewhere in the middle on this subject but 710 doesn't carry sports-talk and I can't stand K-shartstarter-K. I think he deserves a shot at backup if we can draft a Joe Montana but I don't know that there's one out there. But I definitely think we should use our first pick to find out, IF Detroit and St. Louis haven't already taken him (whomever that may be).

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Well that's what they get for keeping Gunther around.

Regardless i remember you were all for giving Herm a chance at the time. WE all thought Herm was giogn to get his say so and that Gun was just his puppet. I think alot of fans though, Herm would be the real DC of the team. It just didnt happen for whatever reasons.

This defense needs fixing in the worst way. I cant stand giving up 38 points. Shit pisses me off.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by kcxiv

Regardless i remember you were all for giving Herm a chance at the time. WE all thought Herm was giogn to get his say so and that Gun was just his puppet. I think alot of fans though, Herm would be the real DC of the team. It just didnt happen for whatever reasons.

This defense needs fixing in the worst way. I cant stand giving up 38 points. Shit pisses me off.

The problem with that is Herm has never been a DC.

[Hydrae]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Yea Tyler Thigpen is the worst 4th quarter QB in the NFL...the Chiefs offense in the 2nd halfs in general was complete garbage.

Explain to me why they could only score 30 points when the other team had 38 or 50? So then when the other teams got 22 or 16 they could only muster 20 or say 6.

It's called the entire team being bad.

There you go. My biggest concern at this point is not the players on the team, it is the losing mentality. I worry these guys no longer know how to win a ball game. This is also the number 1 reason why everyone from Herm on down needs to go.

[smittysbar]

Originally Posted by Unleash_the_Phury

You didn't win a Super Bowl with Trent green, Joe Montana, Warren Moon... Defences, kids. If you have a defence that can make stops and your offense puts up points on a consistent basis and your coaches aren't frickin morons, you win. Period.

Originally Posted by Unleash_the_Phury

It didn't net them any results because they had an awful defence! Unless you want Tony G lining up at LB and D-bowe playing safety with Albert clogging up the middle, allowing dorsey to move over to left end, the blame for a lack of wins falls squarely on the defence's shoulders.

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[petegz28]

Originally Posted by HC_Chief

There is the very real possibility they could do much better.

There is also the more probable in that they will stink it up their first few years like most QB's. I remember Eli not doing oh so well his first couple years. Leinart is not lighting it up at all. Flaco is benefiting from a running game and solid defense, which Thigy could do just as well. Ryan is about the only QB to come out and do good his 1st year.

[smittysbar]

Originally Posted by petegz28

There is also the more probable in that they will stink it up their first few years like most QB's. I remember Eli not doing oh so well his first couple years. Leinart is not lighting it up at all. Flaco is benefiting from a running game and solid defense, which Thigy could do just as well. Ryan is about the only QB to come out and do good his 1st year.

All the QB's you mention would out play thiggy in the spread.....just sayin

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by petegz28

There is also the more probable in that they will stink it up their first few years like most QB's. I remember Eli not doing oh so well his first couple years. Leinart is not lighting it up at all. Flaco is benefiting from a running game and solid defense, which Thigy could do just as well. Ryan is about the only QB to come out and do good his 1st year.

And is next year what we are playing for here?