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Old 02-02-2010, 03:42 PM  
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Arguments for a Left Tackle in the 2010 Draft.

While the vast majority of drafturbators around here think that Branden Albert is doing a remarkable job and had a great last half of the season, some people believe that adding a competent offensive left tackle would be a prudent and viable selection for the Chiefs with their first pick in the 2010 NFL Draft.

Some supporting arguments for a left tackle:

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Wes Bunting: Well, after Suh, McCoy and Berry, Russell Okung's a pretty safe pick. Sure, he might not be the sexiest of guys, but honestly Branden Albert was one of the highest rated guards I'd seen and yet he hasn't yet had the type of career because he's be a run-of-the-mill tackle. You'd be surprised how quickly that offensive line would improve if you got a legit offensive tackle in there and kick Branden Albert inside. Some good things could happen.
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Fortunately, Pioli, who is a big believer in positional value, can take Okung without sacrificing too much of his team's payroll into the left tackle position. Albert makes less than $1 million in each of the next two seasons, and was a guard at Virginia anyway.

Okung is the real deal. He could take the Chiefs' offense to the next level, though the team will ultimately struggle in the playoffs because of Cassel's limitations.
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Russell Okung - This pick is a no-brainer and barring a huge screw-up, I think we can all be 99-percent assured the Kansas City Chiefs are handcuffed to taking a left tackle at this pick. It will be interesting to see whether it ends up being Okung, Anthony Davis or Bruce Campbell, as the battle for the No. 1 tackle spot is one of the best storylines of the 2010 NFL Draft.

Okung was the most consistent lineman in the nation this year and he will test out on a very high level athletically.
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The Chiefs have plenty of needs and could go in a number of different directions here but their offensive line play has been particularly troubling. In fact, Kansas City ranked among the worst in the league when it comes to sacks allowed. Oklahoma State’s Russell Okung isn’t an elite prospect in the mold of Tony Boselli, Jon Ogden or Orlando Pace but he has clearly emerged as the top offensive tackle in this class and will likely be a Top 10 pick. With good size, long arms, great strength, above-average athleticism and feet as well as top-notch intangibles, Okung is just a very good all-around blocker. Okung could slide into the starting lineup at either left or right tackle for the Chiefs and any investment in keeping franchise quarterback Matt Cassel upright is money well spent.
From Mel Kiper:

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I think the Chiefs could use help at safety as well, but Berry likely won't fall this far, and they'd be reaching on either of the two other safeties with first-round grades. Okung could solve two problems, making him a good value -- he could step in at LT and allow the Chiefs to move Brandon Albert to the right side. A pick that can pay immediate dividends for the Chiefs.
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If Berry should get this far, the Chiefs would be the benefactors, but Okung seems like the right fit in the right spot for Kansas City. The Chiefs have tons of needs, but in Okung they would be getting a franchise left tackle, allowing them to shift Branden Albert back to his more natural right tackle position.
It's damn near a cultural universal!

Also in opposition to people who believe that Branden Albert had a very good last four games, in the Buffalo game, he was penalized three times (tied for most in a game in 2009) and gave up a whopping five quarterback pressures. In the Cincinatti game, he was penalized twice and allow a hit on the quarterback. In actuality, taking out the fluke Denver game, which was a drive block fest as Jamaal Charles racked up a Chiefs single game rushing record, Albert did not perform well in the last quarter of the season. Yes, he didn't give up any sacks, but there were a lot of qb pressures and penalties.
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Old 02-03-2010, 03:47 PM   #196
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how do you look at the Chiefs and decide that LT is even in the top 10 of positions needing to be upgraded, much less #1?






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Old 02-03-2010, 04:17 PM   #197
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how do you look at the Chiefs and decide that LT is even in the top 10 of positions needing to be upgraded, much less #1?






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If you draft a left tackle you can move albert to rt or wr or nt and kill 2 birds with one stone! Of course it will work just like in madden! Every time I draft a tackle at 5 in madden he is about an 85 and albert is only an 80. But he is an 83 at guard, which is a ten point upgrade over wade. That's because guard is his natural position.

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Old 02-03-2010, 04:22 PM   #198
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Either that or she married some douchey schmuck of a guy who was equal to Haley Berry's husband (who cheated on her with some skank), Mutt Lange, who cheated on Shania Twain, even though he is an old, ugly as hell ate up roadie, Hugh Grant who decides to get a blow job from a street corner hooker rather than go home to Liz Hurley, or Kim Cattrell's ex-husband who thought he was such a lady killer that he'd try to make the moves on all her friends.

I'm glad it's always the chicks fault though.
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Old 02-03-2010, 04:23 PM   #199
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how do you look at the Chiefs and decide that LT is even in the top 10 of positions needing to be upgraded, much less #1?
Other than the 13 penalties, 7 sacks, and double digit quarterback hits and pressures? And being ineffective in run blocking?

I guess he did okay if you take those things out of consideration.

No need for a better offensive line. We should focus on defense. I mean, we didn't just pick back to back defensive line players with our first pick in the draft the past two years or anything silly like that. Sure, we'll have to give those Herm/Carl first rounders another couple of years before we need to really think about replacing them because everyone knows that Herm/Carl could really scout the talent - but talent that needs about five years or so to mature. To focus on building a decent offense (especially an offensive line) would be reeruned. Everyone knows that you can get All-Pro level players on the O-line later in the sixth round and beyond. Especially when our quarterback is a guy who costs us the Sanchize and we'd rather see him killed this next year guaranteeing us a possible chance at Jake Locker next year in the draft. (We'd really like Blaine Gabbert, but he played at Missouri and since they are a Big 12 spread team, that means that he's going to be epic fail in the NFL, so **** him.) Once Locker is in place, then we will authorize the selection of decent offensive linemen because we don't want our QBOTF who was OUR draft pick to get needlessly injured. But no offensive linemen in the draft until our QBOTF that isn't a Big 12 product is drafted by a front office approved by Jason Whitlock and a majority of certified/initiated CP Drafturbators. We need to get that safety or MLB NOW!!! Playmakers at defensive support positions win champioinships!!! Ask Brian Urlacher or Deron Cherry. They'll tell you that's the truth.
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[QUOTE=the Talking Can;6502577]how do you look at the Chiefs and decide that LT is even in the top 10 of positions needing to be upgraded, much less #1?




We don't--Chief need a RT and center on O line but certainly not in rd 1
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Other than the 13 penalties, 7 sacks, and double digit quarterback hits and pressures? And being ineffective in run blocking?

I guess he did okay if you take those things out of consideration.

No need for a better offensive line.
This is why people think you're a dumbass.

There is a need for improvement on the OL.

However, LT is the last of 5 OL positions that needs to be upgraded. Center is probably our biggest need, followed by RG, RT and LG.

You're the only dipshit that thinks otherwise.
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Francis, lighten up, pull your panties out. It was a cliche.
It's an ignorant, sexist cliche that is usually mentioned by guys that have no chance at said hot chick. It's simply easier for them to discount her because she's crazy versus just being a person that they are fearful to interact with because of her physical appearance. Either that or it's a subconscious verbally aggressive response triggered by feelings of personal inadequacy and ineptitude brought about by a lack of maternal attention during childhood.
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It's an ignorant, sexist cliche that is usually mentioned by guys that have no chance at said hot chick. It's simply easier for them to discount her because she's crazy versus just being a person that they are fearful to interact with because of her physical appearance. Either that or it's a subconscious verbally aggressive response triggered by feelings of personal inadequacy and ineptitude brought about by a lack of maternal attention during childhood.


Saccofreud.

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Saccofreud.

Talk to Lacan about why your gaze has landed squarely on the o-line.


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Other than the 13 penalties, 7 sacks, and double digit quarterback hits and pressures? And being ineffective in run blocking?

I guess he did okay if you take those things out of consideration.

No need for a better offensive line. We should focus on defense. I mean, we didn't just pick back to back defensive line players with our first pick in the draft the past two years or anything silly like that. Sure, we'll have to give those Herm/Carl first rounders another couple of years before we need to really think about replacing them because everyone knows that Herm/Carl could really scout the talent - but talent that needs about five years or so to mature. To focus on building a decent offense (especially an offensive line) would be reeruned. Everyone knows that you can get All-Pro level players on the O-line later in the sixth round and beyond. Especially when our quarterback is a guy who costs us the Sanchize and we'd rather see him killed this next year guaranteeing us a possible chance at Jake Locker next year in the draft. (We'd really like Blaine Gabbert, but he played at Missouri and since they are a Big 12 spread team, that means that he's going to be epic fail in the NFL, so **** him.) Once Locker is in place, then we will authorize the selection of decent offensive linemen because we don't want our QBOTF who was OUR draft pick to get needlessly injured. But no offensive linemen in the draft until our QBOTF that isn't a Big 12 product is drafted by a front office approved by Jason Whitlock and a majority of certified/initiated CP Drafturbators. We need to get that safety or MLB NOW!!! Playmakers at defensive support positions win champioinships!!! Ask Brian Urlacher or Deron Cherry. They'll tell you that's the truth.
Where in my post did I say we didn't need a better OL?

I simply pointed out the obvious fact that of all the players on our team that suck and need to be replaced, Albert isn't in the top 10.

Perhaps, trying reading my post before bleeding all over it.
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Saccofreud, are you a graduate student somewhere right now?

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how do you look at the Chiefs and decide that LT is even in the top 10 of positions needing to be upgraded, much less #1?




We don't--Chief need a RT and center on O line but certainly not in rd 1
we need all of the following more than a LT:

RT
RG
C
NT
3 LBs
2 safeties
#2 WR
#3 WR
QB

that's 12 positions in more desperate need of upgrade than LT



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and you should probably add LG and #2 RB, making it 14
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Saccofreud, are you a graduate student somewhere right now?

I love the smell of fresh graduate student in the morning.
By the content of his posts, he's getting a GED in offensive tackle evaluation.

And failing.
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we need all of the following more than a LT:

RT
RG
C
NT
3 LBs
2 safeties
#2 WR
#3 WR
QB

that's 12 positions in more desperate need of upgrade than LT
Ad RB2 to that list, and maybe TE.
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This is why people think you're a dumbass.

There is a need for improvement on the OL.

However, LT is the last of 5 OL positions that needs to be upgraded. Center is probably our biggest need, followed by RG, RT and LG.

You're the only dipshit that thinks otherwise.
Oh contraire mon frere. Okung would upgrade the LT spot and the LG spot, thus allowing us to utilize that extra pick that we saved on a guard to be a center. (Pouncey with 2a would be entirely acceptable, though Tennant in round three/four would also be dandy.) At that point, we could turn our attention to the RT spot in the end of round 2, beginning of round 3. In a single draft, our entire offensive line would be substantially upgraded and allow us to utilize our fourth and fifth round picks (four in all) to pick up two safeties and two new linebackers - perhaps Rolle and Johnson as the safeties and AJ Edds and Micah Johnson. It's a win-win for everyone. I don't see how you could possibly complain about that. Look at it again:

1. Russell Okung
2. Maurkice Pouncey
2. Mike Johnson
3. Kyle Calloway
4. Koa Misi
5. Micah Johnson
5. Robert Johnson
5. Myron Rolle

Absolute ****ing gold of a draft.
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