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Old 03-03-2014, 06:45 PM  
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Tyson Jackson says the Chiefs haven't been negotiating a contract
With him but could in the next couple of weeks.


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Old 03-04-2014, 09:06 AM   #61
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Lots of hate on TJax.

Guarantee you if we had picked him up in the 6th round, people would be arguing to keep him.

Dorsey believes that you need two run-stopping DEs. It's pretty clear, the way he's tracked down DeVito and apparently has eyes on Bryant.

So if that's the case, and it most definitely is, Jackson's a fair plug-in.

He'll probably run around $4m-$5m a year.
I just don't understand how a player that only plays two downs on a typical basis is worth that much. Maybe that's my lack of understanding the nuances of the game, but I just find it excessive and detrimental to the team as a whole to delegate that much to Jackson.
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Old 03-04-2014, 09:11 AM   #62
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We need another guy to get after the qb
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Old 03-04-2014, 09:43 AM   #63
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Very very good against the run.
Draft-hate aside, him being gone is a loss and a huge hole to fill.
Not really. For the $$$ it's gonna cost to keep him, I want a guy who can play more than two downs.
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Old 03-04-2014, 09:44 AM   #64
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Old 03-04-2014, 10:07 AM   #65
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Lots of hate on TJax.

Guarantee you if we had picked him up in the 6th round, people would be arguing to keep him.

Dorsey believes that you need two run-stopping DEs. It's pretty clear, the way he's tracked down DeVito and apparently has eyes on Bryant.

So if that's the case, and it most definitely is, Jackson's a fair plug-in.

He'll probably run around $4m-$5m a year.
Huge difference between being a 6th round pick and the number 3 overall. Comon now.
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Old 03-04-2014, 10:34 AM   #66
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I'm not saying he hasn't gotten better. Nowhere have I said he's not good. I was speaking of what Brandt had spoken of on NFL Radio about how Jackson has evolved his game. He hasn't evolved in anyway. Improved, yes. I'm saying he hasn't evolved into a multi-role, run stopping/pass rushing three down player. I was insinuating that he's never been worth his high draft pick, or even a second round pick. I was just pointing out that the show itself hypes players up more than necessary and are too concerned about not upsetting said players than just speaking truth.

Yes, he's a better run stuffer than he was originally, but he hasn't evolved into something more. Evolve isn't the same as improving.

Sorry if what I said didn't make sense
It totally makes sense now. Sorry I misunderstood.
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Old 03-04-2014, 10:35 AM   #67
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Huge difference between being a 6th round pick and the number 3 overall. Comon now.
His draft position has no bearing on whether or not he should get a new contract now.
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Huge difference between being a 6th round pick and the number 3 overall. Comon now.
Not in how a player plays.
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Old 03-04-2014, 11:11 AM   #71
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How so? Stats never tell the whole story. They're mostly used to skew a point of view. Do you happen to know when the tackles/sacks occurred? What games? Down distance? % relative to opportunities? How many downs he plays? etc.

I like the Chiefs face, sure wish they'd get a nose job...
Same can be said for every player. Example - Tamba got 7 of his 11 sacks this season vs Oakland, Houston, and Washington - teams with a combined 9 - 39 record.
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Love how ppl on this board just by default think that our depth will just step right in and produce with no problems. Catapano has A LOT of work to do before the chiefs can rely on him to start.
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Love how ppl on this board just by default think that our depth will just step right in and produce with no problems. Catapano has A LOT of work to do before the chiefs can rely on him to start.
This too.
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His draft position has no bearing on whether or not he should get a new contract now.
Nope, Richard Sherman should get less money in his next contract, because he was a fifth round pick.
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