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Old 03-12-2014, 07:23 AM  
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Is this 2004 déjà vu?
It just seems like so far that's where this offseason is heading.

We have a good year and then in the offseason we spin our wheels/take steps back...while other teams in division are clearly bolstering their lineups.

I just feel like this is the offseason we need to make a push to put the pieces in place to win some playoff games and unless we add some serious pieces, we have a better chance at missing the playoffs all together.

This doesn't have much to do with day 1 free agency as it does the fact there has been no movement to try and create cap space by restructuring deals, no interest in the affordable signings and we let 3 quality OL walk in a year a division for is bolstering their pass rush and coverage units.

Just feels just like 2004, so far anyway.

Anyone else feel this way?
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Old 03-12-2014, 07:52 AM   #16
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They also got worse. Decker leaving is a big deal as well as their starting guard.
They didn't miss Ryan Clady, they won't miss Beadles.

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They don't have a legit RB. Who are their other DB's? Who are their LB's?
They had shit RBs and DBs last year and made it to the Super Bowl.

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Von Miller and Chris Harris tore their ACL's less than 2 months ago. They will be lucky to be at full speed by the end of the season. Those are huge losses. They really didn't get better in the grand scheme of things IMO.
Hope in one hand, shit in the other...
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Old 03-12-2014, 07:55 AM   #17
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If ALL contracts are "out of control" then by definition, you're measuring against an already obsolete baseline. The cap is going up. A LOT. Contracts are going to go up. It's basic cause and effect.



We spent the first overall pick on a right tackle. We traded away two 2nd round picks for a 30-year old QB. We gave contracts to aging players like Dwayne Bowe. Would I PREFER to build through the draft? Sure. But first and foremost, I'd like to see some CONSISTENCY in their approach.



So you're going to draft that starting guard then? So much for building through the draft. The picking are already getting slim in free agency when you compare what is available to what our needs are.



Being judicious with money is smart. Doing nothing and letting whole groups of players walk is not.
I never said that we shouldn't sign any players in free agency. So no, I don't think it would be wise to get our starting guard in the draft, unless our options on the market are total crap. Again, be smart in free agency. I think its important for them to ink a FS in free agency. I'd be happy with Clemons. I think they can find a solid guard to plug into the line. My point is we don't have tons glaring needs, so don't freak out and go wild that its Super Bowl or bust in 2014.

Oh, and isn't it about time for you to get over Alex Smith. For the love of God, I just happy we have a legit QB. I worry about those of you continue to bitch about the two draft picks we gave up for him. I better stop there, the analogy I want to use could get me in trouble. What's done is done.
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Old 03-12-2014, 07:55 AM   #18
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They didn't miss Ryan Clady, they won't miss Beadles.



They had shit RBs and DBs last year and made it to the Super Bowl.



Hope in one hand, shit in the other...
I didn't say any of those things FYI
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Old 03-12-2014, 07:56 AM   #19
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I can't wait until next offseason when the Broncos choke again and Demaryius Thomas and Von Miller want top 5 money, Welker is a also a free agent.

They're going to be so ****ed. It's either clean house to be able to afford those two or let them go. Either way they're losing very important players next year.
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Old 03-12-2014, 07:58 AM   #20
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Oh, and isn't it about time for you to get over Alex Smith. For the love of God, I just happy we have a legit QB. I worry about those of you continue to bitch about the two draft picks we gave up for him. I better stop there, the analogy I want to use could get me in trouble. What's done is done.
So I guess you've missed the 100 or so posts where I've praised Alex Smith and used words like "nails", "clutch", etc.?

The point is, if you're going to trade picks for players, you have to REINFORCE that approach because you're absolutely playing for NOW.

The two draft picks we gave up for him represent a problem if this regime isn't CONSISTENT in its approach. You can't "build through the draft" if you don't have any ****ing draft picks.
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Old 03-12-2014, 07:59 AM   #21
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I'm pretty sure Reid and Dorsey know what they're doing. If you stop and think about it, how many really big names and multi-million dollar players did the Eagles have during Reid's tenure?
The same could be asked about the Packers.
They both believe in piecing the team together via the draft and that's what they're doing.
It's not like Denver's "win right now, we'll suck when the cap hits" mentality. They have a year, maybe two before Manning retires. They're on the ****ing clock, the chiefs aren't. They're trying to build a dynasty while Denver will be 3-13 in a few years.
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Old 03-12-2014, 08:00 AM   #22
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I can't wait until next offseason when the Broncos choke again and Demaryius Thomas and Von Miller want top 5 money, Welker is a also a free agent.

They're going to be so ****ed. It's either clean house to be able to afford those two or let them go. Either way they're losing very important players next year.


Everybody said they were ****ed when they signed Manning. He wouldn't last 6 games they said. They made the playoffs.

Everybody said they were ****ed this past offseason. Defense sucks. They made the Super Bowl.
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Old 03-12-2014, 08:01 AM   #23
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Dorsey wasn't bluffing when he got here. He's building this through the draft.
It's obvious that he thinks very highly of his first draft to step up and take over.
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Old 03-12-2014, 08:02 AM   #24
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Everybody said they were ****ed when they signed Manning. He wouldn't last 6 games they said. They made the playoffs.

Everybody said they were ****ed this past offseason. Defense sucks. They made the Super Bowl.
What happened when they made the SB again? Remind me.

This is a money issue. They are using ALL of their money NOW. Do you disagree that Thomas and Von won't want top 5 money next offseason when their contracts are up? Do you know how the cap works?
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Old 03-12-2014, 08:04 AM   #25
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I'm pretty sure Reid and Dorsey know what they're doing. If you stop and think about it, how many really big names and multi-million dollar players did the Eagles have during Reid's tenure?
Seriously? Seriously?

The Eagles signed Jevon Kearse and Terrell Owens in the SAME OFFSEASON.

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The same could be asked about the Packers.
At one point, Brett Favre was the highest-paid QB in the league. They traded for him.

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They both believe in piecing the team together via the draft and that's what they're doing.
Well, except for trading multiple draft picks for a 30-year old QB.

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They're trying to build a dynasty while Denver will be 3-13 in a few years.
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What happened when they made the SB again? Remind me.

This is a money issue. They are using ALL of their money NOW. Do you disagree that Thomas and Von won't want top 5 money next offseason when their contracts are up? Do you know how the cap works?
Hilarious.

This team hasn't won a SINGLE PLAYOFF GAME since Bill Clinton's first term and they want to gloat about the Broncos losing in the SUPER BOWL?
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Everybody said they were ****ed when they signed Manning. He wouldn't last 6 games they said. They made the playoffs.

Everybody said they were ****ed this past offseason. Defense sucks. They made the Super Bowl.
Yea Denver has won it all.
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Everybody said they were ****ed when they signed Manning. He wouldn't last 6 games they said. They made the playoffs.

Everybody said they were ****ed this past offseason. Defense sucks. They made the Super Bowl.
Well to be fair that's only because of Manning himself. Having Manning can overcome a lot of other deficiencies. Once Manning is gone and some loser like Brock Osweiler is the QB and they're still in cap hell then things aren't going to be so pretty around there.
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Yea Denver has won it all.
Did I say that?
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Hilarious.

This team hasn't won a SINGLE PLAYOFF GAME since Bill Clinton's first term and they want to gloat about the Broncos losing in the SUPER BOWL?
You seem to be the one sucking their dicks. They have major problems and got lucky that the Pats were completely depleted w injuries.

They are nowhere near as good as Seattle even with their additions.
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