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Old 06-04-2014, 01:59 PM  
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Old 06-04-2014, 06:44 PM   #151
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How much is a guy like Andy Dalton worth?

I'm guessing he has better stats than Kaep or Wilson?
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Old 06-04-2014, 06:55 PM   #152
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Kap is Steve Young v.2.01. I am freaking thrilled to be a 49ers fan and thrilled to be watching the ascension of the next 2 elite QBs in the NFL with Andrew Luck and Colin Kaepernick.
I swear on my kids souls I'm not saying this just to slam, but its my opinion that this guy will be a perennial disappointment... flashy and talented enough to keep everyone on the edge of their seats, but he believes too much in his own prowess and probably doesn't study enough.

He's Michael Vick 2.01, not Young, in my honest opinion... give the Falcons era Vick this guys Sgt. Rock team and he could've gotten them deep into the playoffs just as easy, shitting the bed all along the way until people started stepping up around him and his pride started bothering him.

He's not a real student of the game and he relies too heavily on his athleticism, that's my honest opinion of the guy.
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Old 06-04-2014, 06:56 PM   #153
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Old 06-04-2014, 07:08 PM   #154
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Why do people think he's not worth it?

Sure, he's not top tier, but he's not garbage either.

He wins games and keeps his team competitive.

What in your opinion should he be paid?
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Old 06-04-2014, 07:29 PM   #155
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How much is a guy like Andy Dalton worth?

I'm guessing he has better stats than Kaep or Wilson?
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Ask and you shall receive.

I can't find a way to do a table so, here are career average years over 16 games for regular season play. I may do playoffs later.


Wins and Losses

A. Dalton - 10 - 6
Kepernick - 12 - 4
R . Wilson - 12- 4
And. Luck - 11 - 5


Passing yards

A. Dalton - 3,786
Kapernick - 2,604
R . Wilson - 3,236
And. Luck - 4,098


Completion %

A. Dalton - 60.9%
Kapernick - 59.8%
R . Wilson - 63.6%
And. Luck - 57.0%


Passing TDs

A. Dalton - 27
Kapernick - 16
R . Wilson - 26
And. Luck - 23


Interceptions

A. Dalton - 16
Kapernick - 6
R . Wilson - 10
And. Luck - 14


Passer Rating

A. Dalton - 85.7
Kapernick - 93.8
R . Wilson - 100.6
And. Luck - 81.5


ESPN QBR Rating

A. Dalton - 51.5
Kapernick - 75.6
R . Wilson - 65.8
And. Luck - 63.8


Rushing Yards

A. Dalton - 152
Kapernick - 483
R . Wilson - 514
And. Luck - 316


Rushing TDs

A. Dalton - 2
Kapernick - 5
R . Wilson - 3
And. Luck - 5
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Old 06-04-2014, 07:32 PM   #156
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All stats above are pro-rated for a 16 game season.

Bear in mind that Andy Dalton has the most starts under his belt with 48, and should be the best developed of the 4 QBs as a result. Colin Kaepernick has the least starts with only 23, and should be the least developed of the 4 QBs. Wilson and Luck both have 32 starts.
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Old 06-04-2014, 07:36 PM   #157
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Colin is a class act. After the 2012 season was done and the media was trying to drive a wedge between him and Alex, Kap praised Alex for unselfishly teaching him everything he could about the game.

Alex is also a class act. Despite losing his starting job, he very unselfishly took Colin under his arm and continued to teach him everything he could about the playbook, reading defenses, and whatever he could

Two very upstanding young men. Amid the Ritchie Incognito's of the world, both of their parents should be very proud of the moral character of these 2 guys.
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Old 06-04-2014, 07:37 PM   #158
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Awesome work. it will be very interesting to see what Dalton snags. He's obviously a better passer than Kaep at this stage. If Kaep and Dalton swapped teams, would the results be the same for both teams?
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That offense is basically tailor made for Kaep and his skillset.
Handing the ball off and not throwing much at all?
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Awesome work. it will be very interesting to see what Dalton snags. He's obviously a better passer than Kaep at this stage. If Kaep and Dalton swapped teams, would the results be the same for both teams?
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Yeah. Both QBs choke in big moments, Kaepernick just makes you wait a little longer for it while Dalton serves it up right away.
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Awesome work. it will be very interesting to see what Dalton snags. He's obviously a better passer than Kaep at this stage. If Kaep and Dalton swapped teams, would the results be the same for both teams?
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Kap is the worst pure pocket passer among Dalton, Wilson and Luck.

Kap came out of college very raw. He was encouraged to run. Still put up 10,000 passing yards to go with his 4,000 rushing yards.

Kaepernick has the least development with only 23 career starts to Luck & Wilson's 32, and Dalton's 48.

Luck and Wilson came out of pro-style college programs. They had better NFL preparation playing in college.

Dalton Luck and Wilson all have had at least 2 full training camps dedicated to developing them. Kaepernick has had only 1 full training camp in 2013. In 2012, Alex Smith still got the lions share of 1st team work. 2011 was the lockout year.

So both Luck and Wilson have had double the time dedicated to them working with the 1st team as Kaepernick.

So you look at Kaepernick and see a 4th year starter who who should be at least as developed as Andy Dalton, also a 4th year starter, and ahead of Luck and Wilson who are 3rd year starters.

I see Kaepernick as a QB who came out raw from a gimmick offense, lacking experience in pro-style play, who has only had 23 career starts, and only had 1 single training camp where he was working exclusively with the 1st team and the his position coaches were focusing solely on his development. Half the time that Luck and Wilson received so far.

Just the way I see it.
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Time to knock the living shit out of a 61mill QB when the Chiefs play them.
Are you confusing the 2014 49ers offensive line with the 2014 Chief's offensive line?

Alex will be struggling to stand upright all game.
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