Football Was this the end of the Geno Smith era for New York Jets? - Page 5

FringeNC · 10-26-2014, 08:20 PM

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EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. – The Geno Smith era (error?) for the New York Jets might be nearing its end.

Benched after just four series in the Jets' 43-23 home loss to the Buffalo Bills, Smith's time as starter of this 1-7 team is tenuous. He threw three interceptions and just two completions on his first 10 passes, forcing usually lax Jets head coach Rex Ryan to bench his second-year quarterback for the second time this season. Now 24 starts into his NFL career, Smith shows no signs of progress, no signs of turning into a franchise quarterback.

Instead, he struggles with fundamentals and still can't read a defense.

“We didn’t execute. We didn’t execute again. I say we [but] I’m talking about myself because it was just atrocious, the way that I started out. I never expected to start a game out like that,” Smith said. “I’ve got to make sure that I get better from that and don’t allow things like that to happen - put ourselves in those types of positions like that.”

Let's be clear that there have been plenty worse quarterbacks in the history of the NFL who have stuck around for a few seasons. And Smith did quarterback a team that went 8-8 in his rookie year last season. What Smith can't do is lead a team or win games on his own. Three interceptions on the game's first four drives shows that Smith's learning curve is perhaps steeper than anticipated.

Smith, by the looks of it, might never get there.

He came from an "Air-Raid" offense in West Virginia that masked his deficiencies. He'd throw to the hot read and let teammates like Tavon Austin and Stedman Bailey rack up serious yards down the field. But on Sundays, in the face of collapsing pockets, Smith struggles with his decision-making and is pressured into poor throws. All three of his interceptions against the Bills could have been avoided.

The move to Michael Vick in Sunday's loss might show a shift amongst the coaching staff that could point the franchise in a different direction at quarterback, not just as they play out the rest of this year but moving forward.

It could be argued that the Jets haven't had a franchise quarterback – a true franchise quarterback – since Joe Namath left Broadway following the 1976 season. Yes, there has been Boomer Esiason and Vinny Testaverde and Chad Pennington since then, but the Jets have failed to groom a long-term answer under center for almost four decades now.

Smith was supposed to be that quarterback. Instead, he looks ready to be the latest failure at the position, even as the Jets don't know who will start come Week 9.

Head coach Rex Ryan wouldn't commit to Vick or Smith moving forward. Vick was 18-for-36 for 153 yards and had an interception along with two fumbles lost. Vick can improve on this performance, however. He has rarely received first-team reps this season. His 36 attempts on Sunday are the most he has had since Week 2 last year, when he was the starter with the Philadelphia Eagles. Ryan would only say about next week's decision at starting quarterback, “I have no idea, we'll look at that later.” But “later” might well cost Ryan his job.

If Ryan wants any shot to return to the Jets for a seventh season, he might need to go with Vick from here on out.

“Well, you know I wouldn’t like to repeat that, but if it does happen I have to use it to my best interest," Smith said. "I have to make it beneficial. Like I said, I never envisioned that happening because I do see myself as the starting quarterback and I honestly believe that I can turn things around myself to get this team going. But if those things do happen I have to learn from it and take those reps from the sideline and I have to do a good job of that.”

**Baby Lee** · 10-27-2014, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth

That's a long post. Let me boil down what is important:

If the season ended today, the Chiefs would not be in the playoffs.

And if my Aunt had a dick, she'd be my uncle.

Hammock Parties · 10-27-2014, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

And if my Aunt had a dick, she'd be my uncle.

The Chiefs are definitely the dickless Aunts of the NFL...right on.

Reerun_KC · 10-27-2014, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth

The Chiefs are definitely the dickless Aunts of the NFL...right on.

How do the Chiefs compare to your Jets and Geno?

**Baby Lee** · 10-27-2014, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth

The Chiefs are definitely the dickless Aunts of the NFL...right on.

by which of course I mean, you are a dinosaur in the modern world.

And a broad to boot.

Reerun_KC · 10-27-2014, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

by which of course I mean, you are a dinosaur in the modern world.

And a broad to boot.

**Baby Lee** · 10-27-2014, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

How do the Chiefs compare to your Jets and Geno?

Seems like their chocolate logs have dissolved into green apple splatters all over the bowl of that poor American Standard they're perched on.

Hammock Parties · 10-27-2014, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

a dinosaur in the modern world.

The perfect description for our QB and passing attack.

Thank you.

Reerun_KC · 10-27-2014, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Seems like their chocolate logs have dissolved into green apple splatters all over the bowl of that poor American Standard they're perched on.

Dude you are killing me tonight...

**Baby Lee** · 10-27-2014, 09:06 PM

You know, it occurs to me that it is entirely fair and reasonable to decree that;

if someone publicly proclaims that playoff success is the ONLY thing that matters in the NFL, they should shut their ****ing mouth about day to day or week to week developments until the playoffs actually occur.

Seems only self-evident. If what happened last week or will happen this week is so inconsequential. How much more so griping about it on the internet far far from any power to do anything about it, except irritate others needlessly.

So, 'til January Clay, don't go away mad, just go away. It's the only path to integrity.

Hammock Parties · 10-27-2014, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

If what happened last week or will happen this week is so inconsequential.

If Alex started doing the things that = championships I wouldn't be so crabby.

Instead I'm told to be happy with 220-yard, 0 TD games.

Hootie · 10-27-2014, 09:09 PM

Eric Fisher still has a shot to develop into a good LT.

Geno Smith has embarrassingly already played himself out of the NFL, essentially.

Gee, guess I don't mind we didn't spend 1.1 on him, ha.

Hootie · 10-27-2014, 09:10 PM

lmao

talking about Alex's stats because he had no TD's Sunday?

He played an incredibly efficient football game. It was awesome. He was great. Who cares if he is scoring TDs through the air or if our running game is punching them in? God, that's such a dumb post.

Hammock Parties · 10-27-2014, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

lmao

talking about Alex's stats because he had no TD's Sunday?

He played an incredibly efficient football game. It was awesome. He was great. Who cares if he is scoring TDs through the air or if our running game is punching them in? God, that's such a dumb post.

The thing he has a history of being a guy who doesn't throw a lot of TD passes.

So when he has a 0 TD game I just nod and cry.

Hootie · 10-27-2014, 09:13 PM

they have had excellent red zone TD efficiency this year

why does it matter if it's via air or run?

that's the dumbest thing I've ever read

dls6501 · 10-27-2014, 09:15 PM

I see a lot of people who I have had many arguments with in the Alex Smith threads calling Geno names and saying he sucks. So I have to ask you......

Why does Geno not have the luxury of getting SEVEN YEARS to prove that he could be a functional NFL Quarterback? Why have you guys written him off after a season and a half? Seems extremely hypocritical to me.

10-26-2014, 08:20 PM
FringeNC MVP Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: NC Casino cash: $-1753986	Was this the end of the Geno Smith era for New York Jets? http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...medium=twitter EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. – The Geno Smith era (*error?) for the New York Jets might be nearing its end. Benched after just four series in the Jets' 43-23 home loss to the Buffalo Bills, Smith's time as starter of this 1-7 team is tenuous. He threw three interceptions and just two completions on his first 10 passes, forcing usually lax Jets head coach Rex Ryan to bench his second-year quarterback for the second time this season. Now 24 starts into his NFL career, Smith shows no signs of progress, no signs of turning into a franchise quarterback. Instead, he struggles with fundamentals and still can't read a defense. “We didn’t execute. We didn’t execute again. I say we [but] I’m talking about myself because it was just atrocious, the way that I started out. I never expected to start a game out like that,” Smith said. “I’ve got to make sure that I get better from that and don’t allow things like that to happen - put ourselves in those types of positions like that.” Let's be clear that there have been plenty worse quarterbacks in the history of the NFL who have stuck around for a few seasons. And Smith did quarterback a team that went 8-8 in his rookie year last season. What Smith can't do is lead a team or win games on his own. Three interceptions on the game's first four drives shows that Smith's learning curve is perhaps steeper than anticipated. Smith, by the looks of it, might never get there. He came from an "Air-Raid" offense in West Virginia that masked his deficiencies. He'd throw to the hot read and let teammates like Tavon Austin and Stedman Bailey rack up serious yards down the field. But on Sundays, in the face of collapsing pockets, Smith struggles with his decision-making and is pressured into poor throws. All three of his interceptions against the Bills could have been avoided. The move to Michael Vick in Sunday's loss might show a shift amongst the coaching staff that could point the franchise in a different direction at quarterback, not just as they play out the rest of this year but moving forward. It could be argued that the Jets haven't had a franchise quarterback – a true franchise quarterback – since Joe Namath left Broadway following the 1976 season. Yes, there has been Boomer Esiason and Vinny Testaverde and Chad Pennington since then, but the Jets have failed to groom a long-term answer under center for almost four decades now. Smith was supposed to be that quarterback. Instead, he looks ready to be the latest failure at the position*, even as the Jets don't know who will start come Week 9. Head coach Rex Ryan wouldn't commit to Vick or Smith moving forward. Vick was 18-for-36 for 153 yards and had an interception along with two fumbles lost. Vick can improve on this performance, however. He has rarely received first-team reps this season. His 36 attempts on Sunday are the most he has had since Week 2 last year, when he was the starter with the Philadelphia Eagles. Ryan would only say about next week's decision at starting quarterback, “I have no idea, we'll look at that later.” But “later” might well cost Ryan his job. If Ryan wants any shot to return to the Jets for a seventh season, he might need to go with Vick from here on out. “Well, you know I wouldn’t like to repeat that, but if it does happen I have to use it to my best interest," Smith said. "I have to make it beneficial. Like I said, I never envisioned that happening because I do see myself as the starting quarterback and I honestly believe that I can turn things around myself to get this team going. But if those things do happen I have to learn from it and take those reps from the sideline and I have to do a good job of that.”
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10-27-2014, 09:06 PM	#69
Baby Lee Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $8028275	You know, it occurs to me that it is entirely fair and reasonable to decree that; if someone publicly proclaims that playoff success is the ONLY thing that matters in the NFL, they should shut their ****ing mouth about day to day or week to week developments until the playoffs actually occur. Seems only self-evident. If what happened last week or will happen this week is so inconsequential. How much more so griping about it on the internet far far from any power to do anything about it, except irritate others needlessly. So, 'til January Clay, don't go away mad, just go away. It's the only path to integrity. __________________ We need the kind of courage that can withstand the subtle corruption of the cynics - E.W.
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10-27-2014, 09:09 PM	#71
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Eric Fisher still has a shot to develop into a good LT. Geno Smith has embarrassingly already played himself out of the NFL, essentially. Gee, guess I don't mind we didn't spend 1.1 on him, ha.
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10-27-2014, 09:10 PM	#72
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	lmao talking about Alex's stats because he had no TD's Sunday? He played an incredibly efficient football game. It was awesome. He was great. Who cares if he is scoring TDs through the air or if our running game is punching them in? God, that's such a dumb post.
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10-27-2014, 09:13 PM	#74
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	they have had excellent red zone TD efficiency this year why does it matter if it's via air or run? that's the dumbest thing I've ever read
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10-27-2014, 09:15 PM	#75
dls6501 Veteran Join Date: Jan 2014 Casino cash: $9940375	I see a lot of people who I have had many arguments with in the Alex Smith threads calling Geno names and saying he sucks. So I have to ask you...... Why does Geno not have the luxury of getting SEVEN YEARS to prove that he could be a functional NFL Quarterback? Why have you guys written him off after a season and a half? Seems extremely hypocritical to me.
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