Football Was this the end of the Geno Smith era for New York Jets? - Page 6

FringeNC · 10-26-2014, 08:20 PM

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EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. – The Geno Smith era (error?) for the New York Jets might be nearing its end.

Benched after just four series in the Jets' 43-23 home loss to the Buffalo Bills, Smith's time as starter of this 1-7 team is tenuous. He threw three interceptions and just two completions on his first 10 passes, forcing usually lax Jets head coach Rex Ryan to bench his second-year quarterback for the second time this season. Now 24 starts into his NFL career, Smith shows no signs of progress, no signs of turning into a franchise quarterback.

Instead, he struggles with fundamentals and still can't read a defense.

“We didn’t execute. We didn’t execute again. I say we [but] I’m talking about myself because it was just atrocious, the way that I started out. I never expected to start a game out like that,” Smith said. “I’ve got to make sure that I get better from that and don’t allow things like that to happen - put ourselves in those types of positions like that.”

Let's be clear that there have been plenty worse quarterbacks in the history of the NFL who have stuck around for a few seasons. And Smith did quarterback a team that went 8-8 in his rookie year last season. What Smith can't do is lead a team or win games on his own. Three interceptions on the game's first four drives shows that Smith's learning curve is perhaps steeper than anticipated.

Smith, by the looks of it, might never get there.

He came from an "Air-Raid" offense in West Virginia that masked his deficiencies. He'd throw to the hot read and let teammates like Tavon Austin and Stedman Bailey rack up serious yards down the field. But on Sundays, in the face of collapsing pockets, Smith struggles with his decision-making and is pressured into poor throws. All three of his interceptions against the Bills could have been avoided.

The move to Michael Vick in Sunday's loss might show a shift amongst the coaching staff that could point the franchise in a different direction at quarterback, not just as they play out the rest of this year but moving forward.

It could be argued that the Jets haven't had a franchise quarterback – a true franchise quarterback – since Joe Namath left Broadway following the 1976 season. Yes, there has been Boomer Esiason and Vinny Testaverde and Chad Pennington since then, but the Jets have failed to groom a long-term answer under center for almost four decades now.

Smith was supposed to be that quarterback. Instead, he looks ready to be the latest failure at the position, even as the Jets don't know who will start come Week 9.

Head coach Rex Ryan wouldn't commit to Vick or Smith moving forward. Vick was 18-for-36 for 153 yards and had an interception along with two fumbles lost. Vick can improve on this performance, however. He has rarely received first-team reps this season. His 36 attempts on Sunday are the most he has had since Week 2 last year, when he was the starter with the Philadelphia Eagles. Ryan would only say about next week's decision at starting quarterback, “I have no idea, we'll look at that later.” But “later” might well cost Ryan his job.

If Ryan wants any shot to return to the Jets for a seventh season, he might need to go with Vick from here on out.

“Well, you know I wouldn’t like to repeat that, but if it does happen I have to use it to my best interest," Smith said. "I have to make it beneficial. Like I said, I never envisioned that happening because I do see myself as the starting quarterback and I honestly believe that I can turn things around myself to get this team going. But if those things do happen I have to learn from it and take those reps from the sideline and I have to do a good job of that.”

Hammock Parties · 10-27-2014, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

they have had excellent red zone TD efficiency this year

why does it matter if it's via air or run?

that's the dumbest thing I've ever read

You remember when we lost two games this year because Alex couldn't throw a TD?

Yeah...

Reerun_KC · 10-27-2014, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dls6501

I see a lot of people who I have had many arguments with in the Alex Smith threads calling Geno names and saying he sucks. So I have to ask you......

Why does Geno not have the luxury of getting SEVEN YEARS to prove that he could be a functional NFL Quarterback? Why have you guys written him off after a season and a half? Seems extremely hypocritical to me.

clayanus nut sack curse...

Geno wont get 7 years in the NFL...

Hootie · 10-27-2014, 09:19 PM

I've had my fill of idiotic Clay tonight. So moving on. Have fun getting troll'd, everyone.

Eleazar · 10-27-2014, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

this is it in a nutshell...clay has to predict and hope for negative outcomes, because it's his foundation..he has nothing without it..

...but in the meantime...he'll continue to martyr himself for the sake of your negative attention.

He tried so hard to be revered as a football guru here.

Eleazar · 10-27-2014, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

clayanus nut sack curse...

You can set your watch by that one.

**Baby Lee** · 10-27-2014, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth

The thing he has a history of being a guy who doesn't throw a lot of TD passes.

So when he has a 0 TD game I just nod and cry.

Head!! Cry yahseff tah sleep tonight. Cry into yah giant pillah!!

Just Passin' By · 10-27-2014, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dls6501

I see a lot of people who I have had many arguments with in the Alex Smith threads calling Geno names and saying he sucks. So I have to ask you......

Why does Geno not have the luxury of getting SEVEN YEARS to prove that he could be a functional NFL Quarterback? Why have you guys written him off after a season and a half? Seems extremely hypocritical to me.

Please tell me you're trolling with this.

Skyy God · 11-19-2014, 11:55 AM

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The New York Daily News' Seth Walder believes Geno Smith's Jets days "look to be just about over."

Walder thinks Smith's chances of sticking around into 2015 are slim if GM John Idzik keeps his job, and even slimmer if Idzik gets canned. Smith had a long leash -- in today's NFL -- as Gang Green's starter, but amassed a disgusting 19:31 TD:INT ratio across 24 starts. The Jets were 9-15 in those games.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8326/geno-smith

JakeLV · 11-19-2014, 11:59 AM

Bring him in for a look.

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-19-2014, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dls6501

I see a lot of people who I have had many arguments with in the Alex Smith threads calling Geno names and saying he sucks. So I have to ask you......

Why does Geno not have the luxury of getting SEVEN YEARS to prove that he could be a functional NFL Quarterback? Why have you guys written him off after a season and a half? Seems extremely hypocritical to me.

LOL Trolling or mind-numbingly stupid?

Molitoth · 11-19-2014, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave

LOL Trolling or mind-numbingly stupid?

I don't want to get into this argument again, but really... why is it stupid?
Do you remember Alex Smiths first few seasons?

The guy has a point.

I'm not defending Geno Smith because he has made his bed of shit and he gets to lay in it... but just sayin' he has a point.

Reerun_KC · 11-19-2014, 12:40 PM

the Death of the Genobaters......

Poor stupid ****ers...

10-26-2014, 08:20 PM
FringeNC MVP Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: NC Casino cash: $-1753986	Was this the end of the Geno Smith era for New York Jets? http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...medium=twitter EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. – The Geno Smith era (*error?) for the New York Jets might be nearing its end. Benched after just four series in the Jets' 43-23 home loss to the Buffalo Bills, Smith's time as starter of this 1-7 team is tenuous. He threw three interceptions and just two completions on his first 10 passes, forcing usually lax Jets head coach Rex Ryan to bench his second-year quarterback for the second time this season. Now 24 starts into his NFL career, Smith shows no signs of progress, no signs of turning into a franchise quarterback. Instead, he struggles with fundamentals and still can't read a defense. “We didn’t execute. We didn’t execute again. I say we [but] I’m talking about myself because it was just atrocious, the way that I started out. I never expected to start a game out like that,” Smith said. “I’ve got to make sure that I get better from that and don’t allow things like that to happen - put ourselves in those types of positions like that.” Let's be clear that there have been plenty worse quarterbacks in the history of the NFL who have stuck around for a few seasons. And Smith did quarterback a team that went 8-8 in his rookie year last season. What Smith can't do is lead a team or win games on his own. Three interceptions on the game's first four drives shows that Smith's learning curve is perhaps steeper than anticipated. Smith, by the looks of it, might never get there. He came from an "Air-Raid" offense in West Virginia that masked his deficiencies. He'd throw to the hot read and let teammates like Tavon Austin and Stedman Bailey rack up serious yards down the field. But on Sundays, in the face of collapsing pockets, Smith struggles with his decision-making and is pressured into poor throws. All three of his interceptions against the Bills could have been avoided. The move to Michael Vick in Sunday's loss might show a shift amongst the coaching staff that could point the franchise in a different direction at quarterback, not just as they play out the rest of this year but moving forward. It could be argued that the Jets haven't had a franchise quarterback – a true franchise quarterback – since Joe Namath left Broadway following the 1976 season. Yes, there has been Boomer Esiason and Vinny Testaverde and Chad Pennington since then, but the Jets have failed to groom a long-term answer under center for almost four decades now. Smith was supposed to be that quarterback. Instead, he looks ready to be the latest failure at the position*, even as the Jets don't know who will start come Week 9. Head coach Rex Ryan wouldn't commit to Vick or Smith moving forward. Vick was 18-for-36 for 153 yards and had an interception along with two fumbles lost. Vick can improve on this performance, however. He has rarely received first-team reps this season. His 36 attempts on Sunday are the most he has had since Week 2 last year, when he was the starter with the Philadelphia Eagles. Ryan would only say about next week's decision at starting quarterback, “I have no idea, we'll look at that later.” But “later” might well cost Ryan his job. If Ryan wants any shot to return to the Jets for a seventh season, he might need to go with Vick from here on out. “Well, you know I wouldn’t like to repeat that, but if it does happen I have to use it to my best interest," Smith said. "I have to make it beneficial. Like I said, I never envisioned that happening because I do see myself as the starting quarterback and I honestly believe that I can turn things around myself to get this team going. But if those things do happen I have to learn from it and take those reps from the sideline and I have to do a good job of that.”
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I've had my fill of idiotic Clay tonight. So moving on. Have fun getting troll'd, everyone.
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