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jspchief · 11-30-2014, 08:20 PM

How do you feel about him as your QB in this situation?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-01-2014, 02:15 PM

Russell Wilson has put up more passing yardage throwing to Doug Baldwin, Ricardo Lockette and Paul Richardson.

ThaVirus · 12-01-2014, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Russell Wilson has put up more passing yardage throwing to Doug Baldwin, Ricardo Lockette and Paul Richardson.

This is one I've been harping on for the longest time. Personally, I think Russ is very good. Damn all the 400 yard games. I want my QB to make the right plays at the right times to win games and Wilson does that more often than not.

This site loves to ride him for having stats that often look identical to Alex's except they don't actually watch the games. His offensive line and skill position players are every bit as bad as ours. He's still better than our 9 year vet in his 3rd year.

ThaVirus · 12-01-2014, 02:19 PM

Peyton's game last night was actually a good example of what you need from a guy sometimes. 179 yards with a 50% completion percentage and a sack that resulted in a lost fumble. But that mother****er completed, what seemed to be, 90% of passing 3rd downs.

BeeHo · 12-01-2014, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Hoyer has done more with his bottom 5 group of WR's than Smith has. Before, Gordon returned.

Hawkins 52 receptions for 718 yards and 2 TDs. (longest 65 yards)
Austin 47 receptions for 568 yards and 2 TDs.
Gabriel 30 receptions for 540 yards and 1 TD. (longest 70 yards).

A bad QB able to find some poor WRs.

Didn't Hoyer just get benched for Johnny boy? I read Hoyer has 1 td to 6 interceptions the last three games.
I would say it doesn't matter much how many yards the wr gets if the turnovers aren't controlled/limited.

Then again I haven't seen much of the browns.

Aspengc8 · 12-01-2014, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KC native

So...what you're saying is our $17 mil a year high football IQ QB can't be trusted to audible into plays that high school QBs are allowed to audible into. SWEET!

Most passing concepts have built in hot reads. No need to 'hot route' a receiver, more important to call out the protection or check someone into protection from their route. I've never seen HS Qb's changing routes at the line. Maybe checking to a run from a pass or vice versa, but not changing just one route.

Sandy Vagina · 12-01-2014, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

OL:

Jaguars
Redskins
Panthers
Jets
Vikings
Titans

Nope... only the bolded belong in there.

Jags are 7th best in pass pro...
Skins are 11th best..
Jets are 15th best..

So KC is right there in the bottom 5.

Which teams have a worse group of WRs now?

and Hoyer??? the guy that got benched last weekend? the guy with the #35 ranking from PFF and a 27th rank in ESPN rating? That guy?

(Smith being ranked 13th and 15th, respectively)

wow...

penbrook · 12-01-2014, 02:22 PM

“Keep our heads down and just know it takes one game to get back into it,” Bowe said. “We got to start by that one game. I think we’re going to get back to the basics next week and just start off with Chiefs’ style football, pounding and grinding and open it up with the play-action.”

Chiefnj2 · 12-01-2014, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BeeHo

Didn't Hoyer just get benched for Johnny boy? I read Hoyer has 1 td to 6 interceptions the last three games.
I would say it doesn't matter much how many yards the wr gets if the turnovers aren't controlled/limited.

Then again I haven't seen much of the browns.

Yes, Hoyer has sucked recently. That's the point. Even a bad QB can find poor WRs. Alex should be able to find a WR.

Sandy Vagina · 12-01-2014, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Yes, Hoyer has sucked recently. That's the point. Even a bad QB can find poor WRs. Alex should be able to find a WR.

Cleveland has the 2nd best ranked pass pro OL... no shit a QB can find receivers with that kind of time.

Sandy Vagina · 12-01-2014, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

The remaining 4 according to FO:

Tampa
Seattle
STL
SF

FO won't be updated until Tues/Wed.. I'd bet the Denver game pushes the Chiefs down, you?

ThaVirus · 12-01-2014, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Aspengc8

Most passing concepts have built in hot reads. No need to 'hot route' a receiver, more important to call out the protection or check someone into protection from their route. I've never seen HS Qb's changing routes at the line. Maybe checking to a run from a pass or vice versa, but not changing just one route.

Good point.

Nothing should even need to be changed- only recognized. You'd think the 9 year vet who is supposedly a master of the short passing game in an offense that is predicated on the short passing game would know where his outlet guy is going to be.

Line up, recognize where the potential blitzers could be coming from, find a receiver in that direction, pass the ****ing ball, profit!

ThaVirus · 12-01-2014, 02:30 PM

One thing to Alex's credit: I remember after one sack Collinsworth said "let's see if anyone was open down field" and they showed a replay of Bowe running his route and then Avery running his route. Both were running go routes

I'm sure there was an underneath route to a TE or back that they didn't show but why in the blue ****? I mean, I only play Madden so maybe I'm not too qualified to speak on this but why are both wideouts running go routes on a night when your protection is getting fisted and one of the guys isn't even a deep threat kind of guy? Didn't make any sense in the context that I saw but maybe Reid was trying to open something up underneath or set them up for something in the future...

Sandy Vagina · 12-01-2014, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

One thing to Alex's credit: I remember after one sack Collinsworth said "let's see if anyone was open down field" and they showed a replay of Bowe running his route and then Avery running his route. Both were running go routes

I'm sure there was an underneath route to a TE or back that they didn't show but why in the blue ****? I mean, I only play Madden so maybe I'm not too qualified to speak on this but why are both wideouts running go routes on a night when your protection is getting fisted and one of the guys isn't even a deep threat kind of guy? Didn't make any sense in the context that I saw but maybe Reid was trying to open something up underneath or set them up for something in the future...

yeah, that was hilarious.. the CBs were pouring some tea as they jogged a few yards ahead.

**The Franchise** · 12-01-2014, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

Nope... only the bolded belong in there.

Jags are 7th best in pass pro...
Skins are 11th best..
Jets are 15th best..

So KC is right there in the bottom 5.

Which teams have a worse group of WRs now?

and Hoyer??? the guy that got benched last weekend? the guy with the #35 ranking from PFF and a 27th rank in ESPN rating? That guy?

(Smith being ranked 13th and 15th, respectively)

wow...

So you're going to cherry pick one stat and that's what you're going to go off of? If I remember correctly....you didn't say that the Chiefs offensive line was a bottom 5 in just pass blocking. You said a bottom 5 unit. All of those teams listed....have given up more sacks than the Chiefs.

ViperVisor · 12-01-2014, 02:32 PM

Denver didn't blitz for the most part.

It was 4 guys rushing but not the 4 down linemen.

When teams blitz with extra rushers you are correct, it is on the QB to try and beat it with a pass to the guy that isn't covered.

Smith has a pretty good history of doing this.

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ThaVirus 5 o’clock free crack giveaway Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $-1817631	Peyton's game last night was actually a good example of what you need from a guy sometimes. 179 yards with a 50% completion percentage and a sack that resulted in a lost fumble. But that mother****er completed, what seemed to be, 90% of passing 3rd downs.
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12-01-2014, 02:30 PM	#207
ThaVirus 5 o’clock free crack giveaway Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $-1817631	One thing to Alex's credit: I remember after one sack Collinsworth said "let's see if anyone was open down field" and they showed a replay of Bowe running his route and then Avery running his route. Both were running go routes I'm sure there was an underneath route to a TE or back that they didn't show but why in the blue ****? I mean, I only play Madden so maybe I'm not too qualified to speak on this but why are both wideouts running go routes on a night when your protection is getting fisted and one of the guys isn't even a deep threat kind of guy? Didn't make any sense in the context that I saw but maybe Reid was trying to open something up underneath or set them up for something in the future...
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12-01-2014, 02:32 PM	#210
ViperVisor Veteran Join Date: Mar 2013 Casino cash: $10019798	Denver didn't blitz for the most part. It was 4 guys rushing but not the 4 down linemen. When teams blitz with extra rushers you are correct, it is on the QB to try and beat it with a pass to the guy that isn't covered. Smith has a pretty good history of doing this.
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