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Old 06-14-2015, 03:16 PM  
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Donaldson>Moustakas
And it's not even close.

Last night I was watching Hockey Night In Canada with Don Cherry and Ron Maclean; Don Cherry expressed a valid point in that there is an injustice going on with respect to selecting all-stars.

He pointed out that Moustakas is in the lead because it's the people in Kansas City that are giving him a gazillion votes, meanwhile, Donaldson is top 10 in the majors in RBIs, HRs, doubles, runs scored and in slugging percentage.

Fielding wise, Moustakas couldn't hold Donaldsons jock. Now is this deserving that Moustakas deserves to be ahead of Donaldson in voting when Donaldson outclasses him defensively and in a helluva lot of statistical categories.

Guys, you know this system is ****ing bullsh*t okay? Donaldson is the better player and deserves to be in there over Moustakas. You guys are voting him in there because he is your boy. This voting system on choosing all-stars is a reflection of extreme biases and favoritism. The people of Kansas City blew that out of proportion. It's just so unfair.

*Go ahead and flame away. I'm confident my point stands strong
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Old 06-15-2015, 04:58 PM   #241
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Its not ridiculous. Its true.

Moustakas' fielding isn't as good as Donaldson's. Does that make you feel better now?
False.

Moustakas dWAR is 0.8

Donaldson's dWAR is 0.9

Very similar.
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Old 06-15-2015, 05:02 PM   #242
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Old 06-15-2015, 08:00 PM   #243
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Lol. Voting for that cop that killed that guy in SC would be the equivalent of voting for Infante
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Old 06-15-2015, 09:50 PM   #244
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Yep, sure is. Tough shit.

Every year several players start ahead of more deserving players, and people have always laughed it off as just one of those things at the all-star game. No one really gave a damn until it was KC getting too many starters.

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Old 06-24-2015, 12:06 PM   #245
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What's ironic is that Donaldson's votes have skyrocketed in the last week while his offensive numbers have plummeted. In his last 10 games he's batting .150 (6 for 40) with 0 HR, 1 RBI, and 15 strikeouts. Meanwhile, Moustakas has batted .378 (14 for 37) with 1 HR, 8 RBI, and 4 strikeouts.

So, while all of Canada complains that Moustakas' lead is unfair, the gap between the two players is slowly but surely diminishing. Sure, Donaldson has more home runs, but overall their numbers aren't that far apart.

Donaldson: .298/.358/.540
Moustakas: .327/.379/.468

Combine that with the star power he earned during the postseason last year, and I have no problem voting for Moustakas.
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Old 06-24-2015, 12:09 PM   #246
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What's ironic is that Donaldson's votes have skyrocketed in the last week while his offensive numbers have plummeted. In his last 10 games he's batting .150 (6 for 40) with 0 HR, 1 RBI, and 15 strikeouts. Meanwhile, Moustakas has batted .378 (14 for 37) with 1 HR, 8 RBI, and 4 strikeouts.

So, while all of Canada complains that Moustakas' lead is unfair, the gap between the two players is slowly but surely diminishing. Sure, Donaldson has more home runs, but overall their numbers aren't that far apart.

Donaldson: .298/.358/.540
Moustakas: .327/.379/.468

Combine that with the star power he earned during the postseason last year, and I have no problem voting for Moustakas.
Donaldson fWAR: 3.8
Moustakas fWAR: 2.2

So, if you're fine voting for Moustakas over Donaldson you are equally OK with voting Luis Valbuena in over Moustakas?
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Old 06-24-2015, 12:30 PM   #247
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Donaldson fWAR: 3.8
Moustakas fWAR: 2.2

So, if you're fine voting for Moustakas over Donaldson you are equally OK with voting Luis Valbuena in over Moustakas?
Oh, yeah. I forgot fWAR was the one and only meaningful statistic out there. My bad.
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Old 06-24-2015, 02:40 PM   #248
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I'm passionate of the position because of Josh. It just rubbed off on me you know?
Why don't you just tell Josh to eat a big ole bag of dicks and shut the **** up?
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Oh, yeah. I forgot fWAR was the one and only meaningful statistic out there. My bad.
Donaldson's wRC is higher, his wOBA is higher, his baserunning metrics are higher, and his defensive rating is higher.
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Why don't you just tell Josh to eat a big ole bag of dicks and shut the **** up?
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Donaldson's wRC is higher, his wOBA is higher, his baserunning metrics are higher, and his defensive rating is higher.
That's wonderful.
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Ah boohoo boohoohoo
You do realize that Donaldson will make the all-star team even if he finishes 2nd, right? Hell, he may even make it if he finished in third place. Settle down. All-star games are a joke anyways.
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I'm passionate of the position because of Josh. It just rubbed off on me you know?
You ahould spend more time voting and less time looking like a whiny girl
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If this world were just, Donaldson should have been voted to start in the 2014 ALDS, 2014 ALCS and 2014 World Series ahead of Moustakas.

I mean they both started in the 2014 AL Wild Card game, did they not?

Can somebody explain this?
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