Chiefs Chiefs fans who want less of Alex Smith may get their wish after 2016 - Page 8

oaklandhater · 10-23-2015, 10:57 AM

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SEAN KEELER
Yesterday at 7:14 PM
Kansas City faithful want a divorce from their struggling signal-caller. But that signal-caller has a contract that doesn’t get (ahem) ‘team-friendly’ until AFTER next fall.

Look we get it, we get it: You want a divorce. Now. Yesterday, if possible.
You saw the wounded duck that left Alex Smith’s arm in the Twin Cities during a fourth-quarter comeback that fell short. And speaking of falling short, there was No. 11’s next offering. Mercy.
It may not seem conceivable, cruel even, for Kansas City Chiefs fans to get hammered with any more undesirable news at the moment. Not after 1-5 and a campaign that looks completely off the rails. Not after a freak injury ended Jamaal Charles’ season before he could try and save it. Not after Jeremy Maclin, the club’s only front-line veteran wide receiver, stuck in limbo as he recovers from a concussion.
Well, here’s some gruel to go with the cruel, baby: $7.1 million.
As in, that’s the cap hit the Chiefs would take by cutting Smith in 2016.
At least according to the fun little calculator provided by the folks over at OverTheCap.com, who list the dead money owed to the Chiefs’ quarterback at staggering $24.9 million as of next year. (Current dead money: an even more staggering $40.4 million.)
“Dead money,” in layman’s terms, is money from a player’s contract that continues to count against a team’s salary cap after said player is no longer on the roster. It’s not just a barometer of a particular team’s investment — it’s a benchmark of just how hard it could be to excise that player (and contract) immediately from the program.
The Chiefs have three players who are projected to account for more than $10 million in dead money in 2016, if cut: Smith, outside linebacker Justin Houston ($16.4 million) and wideout Jeremy Maclin ($19.35 million). In a salary-cap universe, long-term, big-money investments are precious. And, for better or worse, those are the three horses general manager John Dorsey has hitched his wagon to for at least the next 15 months. A June 1 cut of the Chiefs’ signal-caller would actually add $100,000 to the 2016 cap but still would leave $17.7 million in dead money.
To put it another way: In the short term, you’re stuck with him, kids.
So, yes, you could draft his replacement next spring. But instead of the wanderlust for, say, current Cal quarterback Jared Goff — a tall, smart California kid (not unlike Smith) whose college stats aren’t exactly hurt by playing in a Mike Leach-style passing system — maybe the Chiefs should invest a first round pick next spring by upgrading the toys Smith is going to be able to play with. Such as, say, left tackle. Or a valid No. 2 receiver. Or insurance/cover for either Charles or tight end Travis Kelce.
If the first six weeks have proven anything, it’s that No. 11 needs the help. And that the shopping list has rarely been longer.

Red Dawg · 10-23-2015, 11:21 PM

We can't less of Smith. He is giving us less every week and will do the same next year.

splatbass · 10-24-2015, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater

If the chiefs draft another LT in the 1st round CP is gonna lost is $hit

No matter what happens CP is gonna lose its shit. Are you new here?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-24-2015, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief

Going 1/3 for first round draft picks is a big problem.

No its not. It's what you do with the other rounds and FA that count more. And don't you DARE claim Fisher as a Dorsey pick.

NJChiefsFan · 10-24-2015, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

You think he simply was never a good prospect? or is it far more possible that being behind terrible circumstances for a decade may have finally just broke him?

Of course he was a good prospect. But you don't just morph into something because of people around you. He is who he is because of him, not because of bad luck for a decade. Good QB's make the best of players around them, not let those players define their career and use it as an excuse.

The oline problems are there, but when you are getting paid the money he is getting paid, you make the best of it. You don't make it turn you into happy feet and be afraid to step up and make a throw. Daniels is willing to do it, so should Smith. The national media has jumped on the sack narrative, but Smith is at fault for way too many of these sacks.

Potato · 10-24-2015, 07:15 AM

a 7.1 million dollar cap hit a drop in the bucket, I say cut him now and move on.

As for the draft, I don't see how you can pass on Nkemdiche if he's still there.

ping2000 · 10-24-2015, 07:22 AM

Everyone on earth has someone who is directly opposite of themselves. For Alex Smith, that person is Wade Davis. I wonder after watching that last night Alex understands how "non clutch" he really is.

Dayze · 10-24-2015, 07:23 AM

I bet Alex drives an automatic.

ping2000 · 10-24-2015, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze

I bet Alex drives an automatic.

Alex drives like timid old Asian lady. Can't merge or drive over 45 on the freeway.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-24-2015, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Potato

a 7.1 million dollar cap hit a drop in the bucket, I say cut him now and move on.

This is correct.

**hometeam** · 10-24-2015, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

We can't less of Smith. He is giving us less every week and will do the same next year.

Exactly this. He peaked two years ago.. and his peak he still ****ing sucked.

Its the same excuses and excusers for this guy for his entire career!

HE ****ING SUCKS AND IF HE WAS ON SOMEONE ELSES TEAM WE WOULD BE LAUGHING AT THEM!!!

Instead, we laugh at ourselves, or cry.

Reerun_KC · 10-24-2015, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

That's the core problem. We need better QB play. But there are maybe 5-7 QBs in NFL history that can make the current team a legit contender. Even then, the jump from legit contender to SB participant or even champion is a roll of the dice.

We have many holes and everyone is obsessed with filling one.

Have to startwith Reid. If Reid still is here the QB makes zero difference

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-24-2015, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Have to startwith Reid. If Reid still is here the QB makes zero difference

I disagree. A good QB can start to over come the suck of Reid, and a great QB will outlast his sorry ass.

Pull...

that...

trigger.

**Bugeater** · 10-24-2015, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze

I bet Alex drives an automatic.

You know how hard it is to find a vehicle with a manual transmission these days? They barely exist.

10-23-2015, 10:57 AM
oaklandhater future chiefs fans Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oakland california Casino cash: $5828993	Chiefs fans who want less of Alex Smith may get their wish after 2016 http://www.scout.com/nfl/chiefs/stor...pot-with-smith SEAN KEELER Yesterday at 7:14 PM Kansas City faithful want a divorce from their struggling signal-caller. But that signal-caller has a contract that doesn’t get (ahem) ‘team-friendly’ until AFTER next fall. Look we get it, we get it: You want a divorce. Now. Yesterday, if possible. You saw the wounded duck that left Alex Smith’s arm in the Twin Cities during a fourth-quarter comeback that fell short. And speaking of falling short, there was No. 11’s next offering. Mercy. It may not seem conceivable, cruel even, for Kansas City Chiefs fans to get hammered with any more undesirable news at the moment. Not after 1-5 and a campaign that looks completely off the rails. Not after a freak injury ended Jamaal Charles’ season before he could try and save it. Not after Jeremy Maclin, the club’s only front-line veteran wide receiver, stuck in limbo as he recovers from a concussion. Well, here’s some gruel to go with the cruel, baby: $7.1 million. As in, that’s the cap hit the Chiefs would take by cutting Smith in 2016. At least according to the fun little calculator provided by the folks over at OverTheCap.com, who list the dead money owed to the Chiefs’ quarterback at staggering $24.9 million as of next year. (Current dead money: an even more staggering $40.4 million.) “Dead money,” in layman’s terms, is money from a player’s contract that continues to count against a team’s salary cap after said player is no longer on the roster. It’s not just a barometer of a particular team’s investment — it’s a benchmark of just how hard it could be to excise that player (and contract) immediately from the program. The Chiefs have three players who are projected to account for more than $10 million in dead money in 2016, if cut: Smith, outside linebacker Justin Houston ($16.4 million) and wideout Jeremy Maclin ($19.35 million). In a salary-cap universe, long-term, big-money investments are precious. And, for better or worse, those are the three horses general manager John Dorsey has hitched his wagon to for at least the next 15 months. A June 1 cut of the Chiefs’ signal-caller would actually add $100,000 to the 2016 cap but still would leave $17.7 million in dead money. To put it another way: In the short term, you’re stuck with him, kids. So, yes, you could draft his replacement next spring. But instead of the wanderlust for, say, current Cal quarterback Jared Goff — a tall, smart California kid (not unlike Smith) whose college stats aren’t exactly hurt by playing in a Mike Leach-style passing system — maybe the Chiefs should invest a first round pick next spring by upgrading the toys Smith is going to be able to play with. Such as, say, left tackle. Or a valid No. 2 receiver. Or insurance/cover for either Charles or tight end Travis Kelce. If the first six weeks have proven anything, it’s that No. 11 needs the help. And that the shopping list has rarely been longer.
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10-23-2015, 11:21 PM	#106
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10-24-2015, 07:15 AM	#110
Potato king of the trailer park Join Date: Sep 2015 Casino cash: $10000500	a 7.1 million dollar cap hit a drop in the bucket, I say cut him now and move on. As for the draft, I don't see how you can pass on Nkemdiche if he's still there.
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10-24-2015, 07:22 AM	#111
ping2000 Changes pants while driving Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Washington D.C. Casino cash: $2150495	Everyone on earth has someone who is directly opposite of themselves. For Alex Smith, that person is Wade Davis. I wonder after watching that last night Alex understands how "non clutch" he really is.
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10-24-2015, 07:23 AM	#112
Dayze Resident Glue Sniffer Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $1769358	I bet Alex drives an automatic. __________________ Life is 99% inspiration, 1% Perspiration, and 1% Attention to Detial. RIP & Godspeed: Saccoppo Lonewolf Ed Fire Me Boy
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