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Old 08-18-2016, 07:52 AM  
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Barnwell on Derek Carr
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Carr's offensive line allowed him to do things that were relative luxuries for Bortles and Bridgewater, like breathe in the pocket without fearing for his life. Carr was pressured on only 21.6 percent of his dropbacks, the fifth-lowest rate among starting quarterbacks. A quarterback who gets the ball out quickly can distort that number (see: Tom Brady), but other metrics suggest that wasn't the case with Carr. He took 2.44 seconds before his typical pass, 15th in the league. Carr's average throw traveled 7.67 yards in the air, which was slightly below league average and one full yard deeper than the typical Bridgewater pass (6.66)...


It's another Oakland credo to go after enormous receivers. Carr's average pass went to a receiver who was 74.3 inches tall (a little over 6 feet 2), giving him the fourth-largest receiving corps in football. (Jacksonville's grouping was third.) Sadly, they weren't always his friends. Oakland's pass-catchers, which will return virtually unchanged in 2016, dropped 5.1 percent of Carr's throws last year. That was the fifth-worst rate in the league. It's hard to see these receivers combining to drop as many passes in 2016, particularly Cooper, who should be healthier after struggling through plantar fasciitis a year ago. While analyses suggesting Cooper dropped 18 passes seem off the mark, ESPN Stats & Information has Cooper down for 10 drops on 126 targets, the second-highest total in the league behind Tampa's Mike Evans.

The one perhaps concerning quirk surrounding Carr's 2015 season is what happened as it went along: Namely, Carr got worse. A lot worse. His QBR during Weeks 1-9, covering Oakland's first eight games, was 11th in the league at 66.6. During Oakland's final eight games, Carr's QBR dropped to just 35.1, leaving him 28th out of 29 passers. Only Bortles, coincidentally, was worse. Carr's decline came under duress. He had the league's lowest pressure rate during the first half of the year, at 17.6 percent. Over the final eight weeks, that pressure rate leaped up to 25.0 percent. That was only eighth in the league, but it was enough to help throw Carr off track....


There is something that will have to improve, though, fluke or otherwise: Late in games, for whatever reason, Carr was a mess. He posted a 19.9 QBR in the fourth quarter and overtime, which was the second-worst mark in the league ahead of Nick Foles. Bortles, one spot ahead of Carr, finished at 31.2. Seven of Carr's 13 picks came in the fourth quarter and OT, despite the fact that he threw only 31 percent of his passes during that time frame. Only Matthew Stafford had a higher interception rate in the fourth quarter/OT (6.8 percent) than Carr (5.3 percent).
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Old 08-19-2016, 05:55 PM   #226
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Yeah, I knew that, but I honestly couldn't remember if they like Herm or hated him. I'm pretty sure he had Herm as an avatar and then finally put the cross-out thing over it after a couple of years.



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Old 08-19-2016, 06:15 PM   #227
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Old 08-19-2016, 07:51 PM   #229
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Real question...do you even enjoy the Chiefs games anymore?
Not like I used to. Because there's no real hope.

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somehow a thread about david carr turns into dee ford

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Who the hell is talking about David Carr??? This thread is about his little brother. Dumbass!!
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Yeah, I knew that, but I honestly couldn't remember if they like Herm or hated him. I'm pretty sure he had Herm as an avatar and then finally put the cross-out thing over it after a couple of years.

In either event, I think I'm content using this thread to try out a new phrase - Thread Clerpes.

Does it work? Because if so, this thread definitely has a case of Clerpes.
They had him shopped as an Admiral. Loved him then flip flopped like a mofo.
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Why does this place always fall for trolls? Jesus how old are you? If you don't like it simply ignore it or use the ignore feature. Is it that ****ing hard?
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Cutler, Tannehill, and Bridgewater over Smith, Carr, and Bortles?

Yea, it's safe to say whoever came up with these rankings is a ****ing idiot.
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That list is weird. I like Jameis alot more than that guy, and he likes Matt ryan much more than I .

I like tannehill quite a bit, but he's in a no win situation.
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That list is weird. I like Jameis alot more than that guy, and he likes Matt ryan much more than I .

I like tannehill quite a bit, but he's in a no win situation.
Tannehill deserves a year under Gase, and with Landry/Parker, before he's completely written off. I still think he can be a solid QB, but nothing he's done so far warrants him being ahead of those guys.
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Smith might be the most frustrating quarterback on this list. His aversion to risks is almost comical at this point. While Smith avoids the costly mistakes, he limits the potential of an intriguing offense. With Jeremy Maclin and Travis Kelce, he has weapons that deserve the benefit of the doubt on those tight window throws.


When Smith isn’t hesitating to let the ball rip, he’s supremely accurate and able to tear up defenses on the ground. He is a big reason the Chiefs running game actually improved after Jamaal Charles’ season-ending injury.
Sounds pretty accurate.
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