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oaklandhater · 11-18-2016, 02:52 PM

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Is Alex Smith Who We Thought He Is?
Jordan Foote , KC Sports Talk on November 16
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Bob Donnan-USA TODAY Sports
Coming into the season, Chiefs fans were looking for a lot less of this:

And a LOT more of this:

Anyone that has watched Alex Smith play during his 3 and a half years in Kansas City knows that he is a mobile quarterback with playmaking ability. Those same people also know that Smith is not as good at stretching the field compared to other quarterbacks. The eye test gives pretty solid evidence for that. The GIF above shows you the playmaking ability, but also: Alex is stretching the field! With a revamped offensive line, developing receivers and a fantastic RB Core, Alex should be ready more than ever to push the ball down the field, right? Right? Right?

Sadly, statistics aren't on our side. Alex has averaged 6.7 YPA (Yards Per Attempt) this season. Compare this to last year's average (7.4) and you are saying to yourself "Wow! I had no clue he had regressed in the YPA department this season..." The famous eye test sure doesn't do it justice, but our reality is that Alex is throwing the ball shorter than he was last year, which we didn't know was truly possible.

This doesn't mean that "Captain Checkdown" is making a return. This doesn't mean that Alex Smith isn't capable of throwing the deep ball. This simply means that Alex Smith is throwing the ball a shorter distance down the field compared to last season. Now, many factors can contribute to that. Below is a table of Alex's opponent, attempts and yards per attempt.

Opponent
Attempts
YPA
San Diego Chargers
48
7.56
Houston Texans
37
5.03
New York Jets
33
7.18
Pittsburgh Steelers
50
5.74
Oakland Raiders
22
10.18
New Orleans Saints
24
8.92
Indianapolis Colts
19
6.68
Carolina Panthers
38
4.68
7.1 YPA is the NFL Median so far this season, meaning that 7.1 is the middle of the road in terms of YPA. Alex Smith has thrown for above 7.1 YPA in 4 out of 8 games this season, with 4/8 below the median as well. His average in a game OVER YPA is 2.72. When he performs under the median level, he does so at an average of 1.57 YPA. This data may seem meaningless, but there is actually a lot that can be interpreted from it.

2.72 is greater than 1.57. When Alex Smith is stretching the field, he is doing so very well. When he doesn't stretch the field, he does so at a bit better of a distance from the median. He has great moments and bad moments.

Good moment:

Bad moment:

To make a long story short, Alex Smith is what we thought he is. Coming into the season, we wanted him to stretch the field more and make more big plays. He has done so, but there has been no in between. This is just the tip of the iceberg. I am not going to go in depth about how many good defenses he's faced or how his progressions look, etc. but I am going to say this: Alex is who we thought he is, a QB that can make throws on occasion, but can not make them consistently. Stay tuned for more analysis. Until then, here's what we used to put up with:

oaklandhater · 11-19-2016, 08:29 PM

Andy Reid is pretty much Brian Billick at this point a offensive mind coach that has failed spectacularly at the one thing he was brought in to fix.

but he gets to hang around cause the team is doing so well on the other side of the ball.

splatbass · 11-19-2016, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater

Does not leave him blameless for the state of the offense he is a offensive mind coach who is failing in the area he is suppose to exceed in.

This is 0% Dorsey's fault Smith and Maclin are Reid's guys and both of them have underperformed at en almost embarrassing level this year.

Well, you are an expert at being embarrassing.

oaklandhater · 11-19-2016, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

Well, you are an expert at being embarrassing.

Bass really I'm trying to have a football conversation with you don't be a tool.

You want to argue my points then go ahead be an adult about this and argue what Reid has done better than Billick

Red Dawg · 11-19-2016, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater

Does not leave him blameless for the state of the offense he is a offensive mind coach who is failing in the area he is suppose to exceed in.

This is 0% Dorsey's fault Smith and Maclin are Reid's guys and both of them have underperformed at en almost embarrassing level this year.

Andy is certainly not perfect but the all 22 films don't lie. Alex has missed many td's that would make Andy look better. The system is not the big issue most of the time. No offense will score when the QB can't see the field enough to throw it to open players.

oaklandhater · 11-19-2016, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

Andy is certainly not perfect but the all 22 films don't lie. Alex has missed many td's that would make Andy look better. The system is not the big issue most of the time. No offense will score when the QB can't see the field enough to throw it to open players.

Alex is Andy's guy he is the one Andy couldn't wait to trade for.

and I'm skeptical of how much of it is Alex and how much of it is Andy Foles and Smith look carbon copies during the jags game.

I say that Hating every fiber of Alex smith.

splatbass · 11-19-2016, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater

Bass really I'm trying to have a football conversation with you don't be a tool.

You want to argue my points then go ahead be an adult about this and argue what Reid has done better than Billick

I gave you stats in the other thread and you ignored them.

oaklandhater · 11-19-2016, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

I gave you stats in the other thread and you ignored them.

and I dropped stats that you ignored for all the fans saying that den offense sucked too there leagues better then where we are right now in terms of offense.

Aspengc8 · 11-19-2016, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

Andy is certainly not perfect but the all 22 films don't lie. Alex has missed many td's that would make Andy look better. The system is not the big issue most of the time. No offense will score when the QB can't see the field enough to throw it to open players.

This. Yeah, sometimes Andy has suspect play calling during specific situations. His passing concepts are on point though and the A22 does show quite a few big plays left on the field. All this was known when the picked Smith up. He is running the spread just like he did in Utah. Short, safe throws to force the defense to come down and protect short, outside the numbers, then they take shots deep and up the seams. With Hills big play ability, they should start running more RPO concepts.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-19-2016, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

Andy is the reason we are even talking about the playoffs instead of being 2-12 and flying banners over the stadium. People forget that.

KC had a talented roster sans( gee, which position could it be, I wonder? )prior to Reid's arrival. John Dorsey with a combination of Marvin Lewis or even that walking drool-bucket from Dallas could have accomplished a wild card win with the KC roster.

If you take away Reid's ability to communicate with individual players and groups of players, he's more useless than paper towel armor in a razor cage death-match.

Yeah I know; "all the winning"(!) etc. etc....

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-19-2016, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagnabit

KC had a talented roster sans( gee, which position could it be, I wonder? )prior to Reid's arrival. John Dorsey with a combination of Marvin Lewis or even that walking drool-bucket from Dallas could have accomplished a wild card win with the KC roster.

If you take away Reid's ability to communicate with individual players and groups of players, he's more useless than paper towel armor in a razor cage death-match.

Yeah I know; "all the winning"(!) etc. etc....

It's really a shame that under Reid, the Chiefs have had 4 straight losing seasons

splatbass · 11-19-2016, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagnabit

KC had a talented roster sans( gee, which position could it be, I wonder? )prior to Reid's arrival. John Dorsey with a combination of Marvin Lewis or even that walking drool-bucket from Dallas could have accomplished a wild card win with the KC roster.

If you take away Reid's ability to communicate with individual players and groups of players, he's more useless than paper towel armor in a razor cage death-match.

Yeah I know; "all the winning"(!) etc. etc....

That is some dumb shit right there.

oaklandhater · 11-19-2016, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's really a shame that under Reid, the Chiefs have had 4 straight losing seasons

he is a offensive mind coach How has our offense fared since we lost JC ?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-19-2016, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's really a shame that under Reid, the Chiefs have had 4 straight losing seasons

Quote:

Originally Posted by splatbass

That is some dumb shit right there.

Great player coach.

Shitty, shitty game day coach with horrible, nap-inducing offense.

splatbass · 11-19-2016, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater

he is a offensive mind coach How has our offense fared since we lost JC ?

7-2 and in 1st place in the AFC West.

oaklandhater · 11-19-2016, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

7-2 and in 1st place in the AFC West.

JUST WINNING IS NOT A VALID ARGUMENT MY GOD THE OFFENSE IS NEARING LAST PLACE!!!!!!!

11-18-2016, 02:52 PM
oaklandhater future chiefs fans Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oakland california Casino cash: $5808993	Is Alex Smith Who We Thought He Is? http://kcpridesince99.sportsblog.com...ht-he-is-.html Is Alex Smith Who We Thought He Is? Jordan Foote , KC Sports Talk on November 16 0 Bob Donnan-USA TODAY Sports Coming into the season, Chiefs fans were looking for a lot less of this: And a LOT more of this: Anyone that has watched Alex Smith play during his 3 and a half years in Kansas City knows that he is a mobile quarterback with playmaking ability. Those same people also know that Smith is not as good at stretching the field compared to other quarterbacks. The eye test gives pretty solid evidence for that. The GIF above shows you the playmaking ability, but also: Alex is stretching the field! With a revamped offensive line, developing receivers and a fantastic RB Core, Alex should be ready more than ever to push the ball down the field, right? Right? Right? Sadly, statistics aren't on our side. Alex has averaged 6.7 YPA (Yards Per Attempt) this season. Compare this to last year's average (7.4) and you are saying to yourself "Wow! I had no clue he had regressed in the YPA department this season..." The famous eye test sure doesn't do it justice, but our reality is that Alex is throwing the ball shorter than he was last year, which we didn't know was truly possible. This doesn't mean that "Captain Checkdown" is making a return. This doesn't mean that Alex Smith isn't capable of throwing the deep ball. This simply means that Alex Smith is throwing the ball a shorter distance down the field compared to last season. Now, many factors can contribute to that. Below is a table of Alex's opponent, attempts and yards per attempt. Opponent Attempts YPA San Diego Chargers 48 7.56 Houston Texans 37 5.03 New York Jets 33 7.18 Pittsburgh Steelers 50 5.74 Oakland Raiders 22 10.18 New Orleans Saints 24 8.92 Indianapolis Colts 19 6.68 Carolina Panthers 38 4.68 7.1 YPA is the NFL Median so far this season, meaning that 7.1 is the middle of the road in terms of YPA. Alex Smith has thrown for above 7.1 YPA in 4 out of 8 games this season, with 4/8 below the median as well. His average in a game OVER YPA is 2.72. When he performs under the median level, he does so at an average of 1.57 YPA. This data may seem meaningless, but there is actually a lot that can be interpreted from it. 2.72 is greater than 1.57. When Alex Smith is stretching the field, he is doing so very well. When he doesn't stretch the field, he does so at a bit better of a distance from the median. He has great moments and bad moments. Good moment: Bad moment: To make a long story short, Alex Smith is what we thought he is. Coming into the season, we wanted him to stretch the field more and make more big plays. He has done so, but there has been no in between. This is just the tip of the iceberg. I am not going to go in depth about how many good defenses he's faced or how his progressions look, etc. but I am going to say this: Alex is who we thought he is, a QB that can make throws on occasion, but can not make them consistently. Stay tuned for more analysis. Until then, here's what we used to put up with:
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11-19-2016, 08:29 PM	#151
oaklandhater future chiefs fans Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oakland california Casino cash: $5808993	Andy Reid is pretty much Brian Billick at this point a offensive mind coach that has failed spectacularly at the one thing he was brought in to fix. but he gets to hang around cause the team is doing so well on the other side of the ball.
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