Charles Davis: Chiefs shouldn't move on from Smith unless they have his replacement

[Stargazer]

Fox Sports' Charles Davis is talking about the Chiefs and the loss to Tennessee as well as Andy Reid's playcalling in that game. He's also asked about Alex Smith and seems to believe that the Chiefs can't move on from him unless that have his replacement NOW.

8:00 min mark of video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjCQC4fo_CI

[The Franchise]

[Sandy Vagina]

dayum... who is that 10 yr old lookin' goober?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I don't think that most Chiefs fans are willing to give up the prospect of these 10-12 win seasons, even if there isn't a realistic chance at winning anything of consequence.

This is the same argument that has happened on this site for a decade: it's the tug-of-war between people that see wild card flameouts as empty and those that view the pantomime of competitiveness as something not to be trifled with.

Approach the question from the perspective of a bureaucrat: would you rather have a job with extremely high pay and security in perpetuity with little risk, even if you don't achieve goals that will have you recognized at the top of your field, or would you risk losing said job with high salary, if your key evaluation turns out incorrectly?

Alex Smith is a "don't rock the boat, kiss the boss's ass, and hope for the best," pick. It can work, rarely, but it's the kind of chickenshit move made by management the world over. And it's the right move, not because he actually gives you a chance to win anything of consequence, but because most fans are happy enough with 10-6, and are too impatient to undergo a rebuild with both down years and a risk of failure.

Me? Beating Brian Hoyer for your playoff scalp is just as meaningless as 3-13. But I'm not the person tying my identity to Red Friday, treating Arrowhead as a bottomless kegger, and fighting people in the stands over the result of a game.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I don't think that most Chiefs fans are willing to give up the prospect of these 10-12 win seasons, even if there isn't a realistic chance at winning anything of consequence.

This is the same argument that has happened on this site for a decade: it's the tug-of-war between people that see wild card flameouts as empty and those that view the pantomime of competitiveness as something not to be trifled with.

Approach the question from the perspective of a bureaucrat: would you rather have a job with extremely high pay and security in perpetuity with little risk, even if you don't achieve goals that will have you recognized at the top of your field, or would you risk losing said job with high salary, if your key evaluation turns out incorrectly?

Alex Smith is a "don't rock the boat, kiss the boss's ass, and hope for the best," pick. It can work, rarely, but it's the kind of chickenshit move made by management the world over. And it's the right move, not because he actually gives you a chance to win anything of consequence, but because most fans are happy enough with 10-6, and are too impatient to undergo a rebuild with both down years and a risk of failure.

Me? Beating Brian Hoyer for your playoff scalp is just as meaningless as 3-13. But I'm not the person tying my identity to Red Friday, treating Arrowhead as a bottomless kegger, and fighting people in the stands over the result of a game.

I understand the Alex Smith trade. It was a win now move from Hunt/Dorsey/Reid because this fan base needed wins after years of Pioli/Cassel. It stabilized the team and allowed them to build depth. Great....thanks for the wins. Now is the time to ditch that buoy and build a team that can actually compete for SBs in the future.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Me? Beating Brian Hoyer for your playoff scalp is just as meaningless as 3-13.

Well, for you and your life, that decision is yours to make.

For me, the season is long.. and the more weeks that I can smile over a win.. the later in the year where I can view KC as relevant.. is pleasing to me.. adds a little something positive throughout the football year.

I can see both sides of this.. but imho, my side is a hell of a lot happier.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I don't think that most Chiefs fans are willing to give up the prospect of these 10-12 win seasons, even if there isn't a realistic chance at winning anything of consequence.

This is the same argument that has happened on this site for a decade: it's the tug-of-war between people that see wild card flameouts as empty and those that view the pantomime of competitiveness as something not to be trifled with.

Approach the question from the perspective of a bureaucrat: would you rather have a job with extremely high pay and security in perpetuity with little risk, even if you don't achieve goals that will have you recognized at the top of your field, or would you risk losing said job with high salary, if your key evaluation turns out incorrectly?

Alex Smith is a "don't rock the boat, kiss the boss's ass, and hope for the best," pick. It can work, rarely, but it's the kind of chickenshit move made by management the world over. And it's the right move, not because he actually gives you a chance to win anything of consequence, but because most fans are happy enough with 10-6, and are too impatient to undergo a rebuild with both down years and a risk of failure.

Me? Beating Brian Hoyer for your playoff scalp is just as meaningless as 3-13. But I'm not the person tying my identity to Red Friday, treating Arrowhead as a bottomless kegger, and fighting people in the stands over the result of a game.

Flacco was a 230 yard/game (22 TD's/10 INT) guy the year he won it all. He just got hot at the right time in the playoffs.

Aikman/Elway/Young Tom Brady were all game managers when they won their set of rings. Brady has only won a single lombardi since he moved to the "elite level" in 2006. Russell Wilson is a premier game manager and has gone to two superbowls in a span of 3 seasons.

Effective game managers = Winners

[RippedmyFlesh]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Flacco was a 230 yard/game (22 TD's/10 INT) guy the year he won it all. He just got hot at the right time in the playoffs.

Aikman/Elway/Young Tom Brady were all game managers when they won their set of rings. Brady has only won a single lombardi since he moved to the "elite level" in 2006. Russell Wilson is a premier game manager and has gone to two superbowls in a span of 3 seasons.

Effective game managers = Winners

Wilson is a playmaker with a great arm and downfield vision. Every qb that wins isn't a game manager.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

Foles isnt the answer...keep Smith, draft his replacement and let Bray continue to think that he is a qb

He could definitely be the answer until a rookie has been properly groomed

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I don't think that most Chiefs fans are willing to give up the prospect of these 10-12 win seasons, even if there isn't a realistic chance at winning anything of consequence.

This is the same argument that has happened on this site for a decade: it's the tug-of-war between people that see wild card flameouts as empty and those that view the pantomime of competitiveness as something not to be trifled with.

Approach the question from the perspective of a bureaucrat: would you rather have a job with extremely high pay and security in perpetuity with little risk, even if you don't achieve goals that will have you recognized at the top of your field, or would you risk losing said job with high salary, if your key evaluation turns out incorrectly?

Alex Smith is a "don't rock the boat, kiss the boss's ass, and hope for the best," pick. It can work, rarely, but it's the kind of chickenshit move made by management the world over. And it's the right move, not because he actually gives you a chance to win anything of consequence, but because most fans are happy enough with 10-6, and are too impatient to undergo a rebuild with both down years and a risk of failure.

Me? Beating Brian Hoyer for your playoff scalp is just as meaningless as 3-13. But I'm not the person tying my identity to Red Friday, treating Arrowhead as a bottomless kegger, and fighting people in the stands over the result of a game.

Now HERE ladies and gents, is a truly special CP Christmas present from days gone by; a classic Jenkins post in the tradition and spirit of the Four Horsemen of the Cassacolypse. My mother****in' day is grey to sunshine, chicken shit to salad.
WELL DONE, SAH!

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Effective game managers = Winners

Man, it sure would be swell if the Chiefs possessed one of those at this point!

[CupidStunt]

Tiger nails 20 bags of groceries per hour. He doesn't drop a single one.

His colleague bags 60/hour. He drops 1 or 2 in his frantic pace.

Tiger thinks he's a better grocery bagger.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by CupidStunt

Tiger nails 20 bags of groceries per hour. He doesn't drop a single one.

His colleague bags 60/hour. He drops 1 or 2 in his frantic pace.

Tiger thinks he's a better grocery bagger.

Tigers mom should come down to the basement, take his keyboard away and send him off to work.

[Dayze]

@ CupidStunt

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

I understand the Alex Smith trade. It was a win now move from Hunt/Dorsey/Reid because this fan base needed wins after years of Pioli/Cassel. It stabilized the team and allowed them to build depth. Great....thanks for the wins. Now is the time to ditch that buoy and build a team that can actually compete for SBs in the future.

100% this... Smith WAS the right move at the time IMO as well

But you and I have already pointed out a path that would keep both sides happy for the time being

Promote Foles to starter, thereby ensuring further 10-6ish respectability/maybe even more... while a hotshot rookie earns his stripes

Everyone wins

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Tigers mom should come down to the basement, take his keyboard away and send him off to work.

Those dishes aren't going to bus themselves!

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I don't think that most Chiefs fans are willing to give up the prospect of these 10-12 win seasons, even if there isn't a realistic chance at winning anything of consequence.

This is the same argument that has happened on this site for a decade: it's the tug-of-war between people that see wild card flameouts as empty and those that view the pantomime of competitiveness as something not to be trifled with.

Approach the question from the perspective of a bureaucrat: would you rather have a job with extremely high pay and security in perpetuity with little risk, even if you don't achieve goals that will have you recognized at the top of your field, or would you risk losing said job with high salary, if your key evaluation turns out incorrectly?

Alex Smith is a "don't rock the boat, kiss the boss's ass, and hope for the best," pick. It can work, rarely, but it's the kind of chickenshit move made by management the world over. And it's the right move, not because he actually gives you a chance to win anything of consequence, but because most fans are happy enough with 10-6, and are too impatient to undergo a rebuild with both down years and a risk of failure.

Me? Beating Brian Hoyer for your playoff scalp is just as meaningless as 3-13. But I'm not the person tying my identity to Red Friday, treating Arrowhead as a bottomless kegger, and fighting people in the stands over the result of a game.

Started the day Marty arrived. Still transcends to the current team and QB...