Chiefs NFL Rumors: Mahomes, Watson atop KC's QB wish list - Page 25

pugsnotdrugs19 · 03-09-2017, 11:15 PM

From SportingNews.com:

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news...j17r8odsobcbca

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— The Chiefs, who have been linked to most quarterbacks during the 2017 NFL Draft process so far, are in no rush to find a quarterback savior. With Alex Smith slated to be the starter in 2017 but ideally not in 2018, the Chiefs are looking for a passer with the highest upside without needing him to play as a rookie — a dream scenario for a quarterback prospect.

— I believe Patrick Mahomes is the Chiefs' QB1 from what I’ve heard, but Deshaun Watson makes sense as well. They’ll need to trade up for both. If they stay at 27, the one quarterback whom they could shockingly have interest in is Davis Webb of California. They’ve also shown interest in Nathan Peterman and Brad Kaaya, but likely don’t value either as top-two rounders.

Now, the writer of this got all of his info in the article from speaking to FO people and scouts at the combine. You can question the validity, but the Chiefs did meet with all of the players mentioned at the combine.

If this report is accurate, the Chiefs could indeed be on the path to Patrick Mahomes or Deshaun Watson holding up their jersey in 7 weeks in Philadelphia.

Chief Roundup · 04-04-2017, 05:48 PM

WOW King going full reerun. Never go full reerun.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 04-04-2017, 05:52 PM

How much more lipstick are the Chiefs going to waste on the pig?

There exist a sad, delusional folk who believe/feel that because Smith was a (marginal) part of getting the Chiefs out of the ghetto and back in to the playoffs, that Smith should receive unlimited opportunities to prove that he is more than everyone with a functioning set of eyeballs knows he is.
He needed more weapons.
Result?
He became worse. It didn't help his deteriorating case one bit.

If Dorsey, Reid, and an army of Alexsexuals want to stand around on the corner, playing yo-yo and sucking each other's dicks until Alex falls over dead on the field, there's not much we can do about it.
However, some of us would like to get on with playing legitimate offense and seeing what studs like Reek and Kelce can do with a QB that doesn't play like a scurred bitch.

-King- · 04-04-2017, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

You're literally saying Russell Wilson'a defense and running game won playoff games for him while ignoring Alex Smith's defense getting a turnover and keeping one of the hottest offenses out of the end zone and holding them to 18 points while his RB had 4.4 YPC and scores a TD.

Alex also has Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce who are all pro players, not to mention Jeremy Maclin.

So please tell us why Alex couldn't succeed with a great team like Wilson had?

Ben Roethlisberger aka terrible playoff QB kept the Steelers out of the end zone, not the chiefs defense.

If Wilson has the same game as Smith with the Seahawks they win because they don't allow Bell to rape them up and down the field.

And speaking of defenses holding hot offenses to low points, the Seahawks defense held the highest scoring offense in NFL history to only 8 points. So while Alex has been backed up by decent defenses, Russell has been backed up by other worldly defenses.
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rico · 04-04-2017, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Ben Roethlisberger aka terrible playoff QB kept the Steelers out of the end zone, not the chiefs defense.

If Wilson has the same game as Smith with the Seahawks they win because they don't allow Bell to rape them up and down the field.

And speaking of defenses holding hot offenses to low points, the Seahawks defense held the highest scoring offense in NFL history to only 8 points. So while Alex has been backed up by decent defenses, Russell has been backed up by other worldly defenses.
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The Roethlisberger Steelers are 13-7 in the playoffs. He is tied for 6th for career playoff wins...all-time. He's a terrible playoff QB?!

-King- · 04-04-2017, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

WOW King going full reerun. Never go full reerun.

In the playoffs one player averages 236 yards, 1.6 TDs and .9 INTs with a 94 passer rating. The other averages 247 yards, 2 TDs and .3 INTs with a 94.5 passer rating.

Which QB has been better in the playoffs?
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-King- · 04-04-2017, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rico

The Roethlisberger Steelers are 13-7 in the playoffs. He is tied for 6th for career playoff wins...all-time. He's a terrible playoff QB?!

http://www.pro-football-reference.co.../gamelog/post/

Is that a good playoff QB to you? And it's funny you posted his teams W/L record. Thought that was an Alex Smith fanboy thing.
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rico · 04-04-2017, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

http://www.pro-football-reference.co.../gamelog/post/

Is that a good playoff QB to you? And it's funny you posted his teams W/L record. Thought that was an Alex Smith fanboy thing.
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Hmm...interesting. I really don't know what to make of it. Playoff teams will obviously run into tougher teams, for literally every team they face in the playoffs are, well...playoff caliber teams. And you've got a team like the Steelers who have gone to the Super Bowl, what...3 times with Ben? Obviously, the deeper you get into the playoffs, the tougher the teams you are playing become and the more likely those teams are to have elite defenses.

I don't know what to make of it...really. Wheels are kind of turning about it now.

I guess I'd have to see the stats of other QB's that have consistently gone deep into the playoffs (no, Alex doesn't count...that doofus has only led his team to a mere 6 playoff games in 12 years).

**New World Order** · 04-04-2017, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

http://www.pro-football-reference.co.../gamelog/post/

Is that a good playoff QB to you? And it's funny you posted his teams W/L record. Thought that was an Alex Smith fanboy thing.
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Posting a W/L record in the playoffs is an Alex Smith thing?

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 04-04-2017, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

In the playoffs he and Russell Wilson are comparable. The only difference is that when Wilson has a shitty game, his defense has been able to pick him up. The chiefs defense hadn't.

Imagine if Alex Smith threw 4 interceptions in a playoff game. That's a sure loss right? Well it wasn't for Wilson.
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Facts. First 3 SBs Tom won he did it with an elite defense. Oh wait, he had the number one ranked defense this season too.

Lol @ the people who think Rodgers, Ben, flacco, RW, Brady carried their teams.
Idiots.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 04-04-2017, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

http://www.pro-football-reference.co.../gamelog/post/

Is that a good playoff QB to you? And it's funny you posted his teams W/L record. Thought that was an Alex Smith fanboy thing.
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rico · 04-04-2017, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order

Posting a W/L record in the playoffs is an Alex Smith thing?

Bewbies · 04-04-2017, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rico

Hmm...interesting. I really don't know what to make of it. Playoff teams will obviously run into tougher teams, for literally every team they face in the playoffs are, well...playoff caliber teams. And you've got a team like the Steelers who have gone to the Super Bowl, what...3 times with Ben? Obviously, the deeper you get into the playoffs, the tougher the teams you are playing become and the more likely those teams are to have elite defenses.

I don't know what to make of it...really. Wheels are kind of turning about it now.

I guess I'd have to see the stats of other QB's that have consistently gone deep into the playoffs (no, Alex doesn't count...that doofus has only led his team to a mere 6 playoff games in 12 years).

January 2003 was the last time the AFC had a Super Bowl QB not named Brady, Manning, Roethelisraper or Flacco.

Clearly that's because of defense.

Chief Roundup · 04-04-2017, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

In the playoffs one player averages 236 yards, 1.6 TDs and .9 INTs with a 94 passer rating. The other averages 247 yards, 2 TDs and .3 INTs with a 94.5 passer rating.

Which QB has been better in the playoffs?
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Stats are very misleading and can be used to paint an argument however a person wants.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 04-04-2017, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies

January 2003 was the last time the AFC had a Super Bowl QB not named Brady, Manning, Roethelisraper or Flacco.

Clearly that's because of defense.

And the year Flacco won it, he played lights out football. One of the best playoff stretches of all time for a QB.

Sad to say but reality is that the Chiefs will not be getting to any SB while Brady is still around, provided the defense doesn't turn into an all-timer somehow. Hence why they need to be swinging for that A level QB who can always give them a chance.

-King- · 04-04-2017, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Stats are very misleading and can be used to paint an argument however a person wants.

Ok so paint the picture that Wilson is an elite QB or a better QB than Smith in the playoffs. I'll wait.
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