Chiefs As Patrick Mahomes settles in, a little discomfort is serving Chiefs’ Alex Smith well - Page 9

**Tribal Warfare** · 08-21-2017, 02:56 PM

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As Patrick Mahomes settles in, a little discomfort is serving Chiefs’ Alex Smith well

BY BLAIR KERKHOFF

During his first four years with the Chiefs, quarterback Alex Smith was the unequivocal starter. That doesn’t change as he begins his fifth season, as Andy Reid emphasized Monday.

“It’s Alex’s job,” Reid said. “That’s what it is. There’s no gray area with that.”

But the circumstances are different.

Previous backup quarterbacks in the Reid era, guys like Chase Daniel and Nick Foles, weren’t being groomed as Smith’s successor. Patrick Mahomes is, and that changes the dynamic of the position.

Mahomes, who was shifted from third to second team after the Chiefs first preseason game, is on an upward track. There is more of a push at the position, and assistant head coach Brad Childress finds nothing wrong with that.

“Alex Smith has done a great job,” Childress said during training camp in St. Joseph last week. “If you look through the past four years, it’s been fairly comfortable for him. It’s not bad getting uncomfortable. You draft a guy, you look for somebody who can push, and I think it helps everybody up their game.

“Competition only makes you better. If we can create it, we’re trying to. Healthy competition is a good thing, and I think we have great, healthy competition in that quarterback room.”

Reid thinks that’s one reason why Smith raised his game during training camp.

“There’s more competition than before by the nature of it, and as a result I think he’s come out with his best camp,” Reid said.

Smith’s performance in the Chiefs’ first two preseason games is another indication. He played one series in the opener against the 49ers and engineered a touchdown drive. His two possessions last weekend at Cincinnati produced a field goal and touchdown pass. In those two games, Smith is 12 for 15 with a passer rating of 125.3.

Mahomes has generated his own buzz with his performance — he’s 17 of 23 for 137 yards through two games, with three touchdowns and no interceptions — especially after leading the first-team offense to a touchdown at Cincinnati.

Smith has been complimentary of Mahomes, suggesting that the Texas Tech rookie was more advanced in certain areas than he was a rookie.

Smith, 33, is beginning his 13th NFL season and coming off a year when he set a career best for yards (3,502) and his 91.2 passer rating was above his career mark. He’s under contract through 2018.

Smith has always been Reid’s quarterback in Kansas City. But plans had to be made for the future.

“Unfortunately, age comes into this thing,” Reid said. “You get old in this business. At one time (Smith) was the young up-and-comer. That doesn’t mean you’re going to be replaced tomorrow.

“But this is what’s real. You’re not as young as you used to be, so you bring a guy in, and this thing keeps position. It’s life.

“He treats (Mahomes) him well, and we’re not asking him to do this. That’s not his job. We’re asking him to go wins games and be the best he can be. But they talk. There’s an open communication there that’s healthy.”

Smith said he hasn’t approached this season differently than previous ones in Kansas City or San Francisco, where he spent his first eight seasons.

“It’s no different,” Smith said “For me, it’s just kind of being myself. I’m going out there and playing and trying to take advantage of my reps and myself for the season as best I can.”

But Smith isn’t going to withhold help from Mahomes, even if he is the heir apparent.

“Certainly, I’ve been through a lot,” Smith said. “So if there’s something I can help with or see, I am not going to hesitate to vocalize.”

As a Texas Tech sophomore, Mahomes beat out the returning starter for the job. When the Chiefs made him the No. 10 overall draft selection, Mahomes and his camp were thrilled not just because he was going to a winning team, but because he’d be playing for a head coach with a reputation for developing quarterbacks, and the fact that he’d get to work alongside Smith.

Unlike the other first-round quarterbacks selected — Mitchell Trubisky of the Bears, and the Texans’ Deshaun Watson — Mahomes had the advantage of working with and observing a seasoned veteran who has won playoff games and been named to Pro Bowl teams.

What has Mahomes learned from Smith?

“Just how efficient he is,” Mahomes said. “It seems like he always has a plan. ‘If they play this defense, I’m going to go here. If they play that defense I’m going there…’ and how he can get himself out of certain situations. It’s something you learn from him every time you watch it.

“Really, it’s a great relationship. Just having him in front of me, you can’t even explain how much he teaches me on the sidelines. He’s always helping me out. And at the same time, we’re pushing each other to be better every single day.”

cooper barrett · 08-23-2017, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rico

Yeah ok, cooper/PASmithFan.

Rico, Rico, Rico, I thought we had this worked out. My opinions belong to me, I am not a Mult. You can tear into Sandy all you want but please leave me out of it.

Back to our regularly scheduled thread.....

Why do I feel the way about Alex11..... just look at the top 5 quarterbacks the Chiefs have had over the years.
Len Dawson 13 years 2 SB appearances i SB win!!!! 2 div PO losses
Joe Montana, 3 years 1 divisional championship, 22 years ago
Trent Green, 5 years 2 wild card losses
Alex Smith 4 years 2 wild card losses 1 div PO loss
Bill Kenney 8 years 1 shared wild card loss backing up Blackledge

Lets face it: We suck when it comes to making it to Divisional Playoff games and worse at winning them!The only QB to get a conference Championship Was Lenny Dawson.

Fun Fact:None of these QB's were drafted, all "dog pound" QBs discarded by other teams. Actually we suck at drafting QBs

The way I look at it Alex11 looks pretty good and while remembering the hype about Brody Cryole (the same crap as now...) I have more faith in Alex11 than I do PMll this year to bring us a championship.

**** I wish Sandy would change name to Shirley so I could use Lelslie Nielsen's Gif when I get to post them

**RealSNR** · 08-23-2017, 06:52 PM

Only an epic troll like Sandy could come up with a name so foul and butt****ingly stupid as Alex11

ARROW2 · 08-23-2017, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cooper barrett

Rico, Rico, Rico, I thought we had this worked out. My opinions belong to me, I am not a Mult. You can tear into Sandy all you want but please leave me out of it.

Back to our regularly scheduled thread.....

Why do I feel the way about Alex11..... just look at the top 5 quarterbacks the Chiefs have had over the years.
Len Dawson 13 years 2 SB appearances i SB win!!!! 2 div PO losses
Joe Montana, 3 years 1 divisional championship, 22 years ago
Trent Green, 5 years 2 wild card losses
Alex Smith 4 years 2 wild card losses 1 div PO loss
Bill Kenney 8 years 1 shared wild card loss backing up Blackledge

Lets face it: We suck when it comes to making it to Divisional Playoff games and worse at winning them!The only QB to get a conference Championship Was Lenny Dawson.

Fun Fact:None of these QB's were drafted, all "dog pound" QBs discarded by other teams. Actually we suck at drafting QBs

The way I look at it Alex11 looks pretty good and while remembering the hype about Brody Cryole (the same crap as now...) I have more faith in Alex11 than I do PMll this year to bring us a championship.

**** I wish Sandy would change name to Shirley so I could use Lelslie Nielsen's Gif when I get to post them

Are we really comparing Brodie ****ing Croyle to PM11? LOL! Brodie's wife did give me wood though. lol

cooper barrett · 08-23-2017, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ARROW2

Are we really comparing Brodie ****ing Croyle to PM11? LOL! Brodie's wife did give me wood though. lol

She (Kelli Schutz) had the biggest tits on a small woman I ever saw. I saw her throw them up on a bar type counter once, like dam girl!!!! I still get excited thinking about it. She gave new meaning to take a load off.

**Bearcat** · 08-23-2017, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

don't bother. They know we are not the same. The intent is to provoke frustration. Just let em yap and obsess about other posters. That's mostly what CP is about.

Well, talking to yourself is certainly one way to throw off the scent!

Sweet Daddy Hate · 08-23-2017, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by threebag02

**** here we go with the mult shit again after you all looked like clowns for thinking Tiger was Black Bob. Only thing you guys can sniff out is each other's cumstained assholes.

That sounds like a real problem, and one you should probably report.

Perhaps if you sent a PM to Bob Do-

Oh...

**Tribal Warfare** · 08-23-2017, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

Well, talking to yourself is certainly one way to throw off the scent!

I think she doesn't realize mod powers include tracing IP addresses

Best22 · 08-23-2017, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

If Alex Smith has an awesome year and wills this team to SB, do you bring him back next season? If the Chiefs win the SB, do you bring him back or just say thanks and move on to the Mahomes era? I think at least scenario #2 would sit better w/ a lot of people, rather than thinking, "what if?"

That would be an awesome, awesome controversy to have

Sandy Vagina · 08-23-2017, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

I think she doesn't realize mod powers include tracing IP addresses

I assume they can, and if I was guilty of this mult crime, they would have thrown a party to ban me already. They would have eagerly dug into this in a NY minute, praying the results were against me, lol.

.. but they're not. I don't do mults. Get a life, people.. and stop focusing on lil ole me.

Red Dawg · 08-23-2017, 08:18 PM

Mahomes should give us all hope. Championships are built on hope.

Willie Lanier · 08-23-2017, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rico

Yeah ok, cooper/PASmithFan.

Meh, Sandy's not that bad, I don't think he's dumb enough to post this moronic shit

**Bearcat** · 08-23-2017, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

I think she doesn't realize mod powers include tracing IP addresses

Oh, they've taken steps to prevent that, but will keep adamantly denying the whole mult thing.

19now11 · 08-23-2017, 09:31 PM

why do u guys care about alexs passing tds so much? am i the only 1 who notices he passes the ball all the way down the field and then hands it to the rb for a td? slex dont give a **** about fantasy stats. he is unselfish and wants the win.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 08-23-2017, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 19now11

why do u guys care about alexs passing tds so much? am i the only 1 who notices he passes the ball all the way down the field and then hands it to the rb for a td? slex dont give a **** about fantasy stats. he is unselfish and wants the win.

We don't care about Alex at all, and wish he would Marshall himself on his next flight.

NJChiefsFan · 08-23-2017, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 19now11

why do u guys care about alexs passing tds so much? am i the only 1 who notices he passes the ball all the way down the field and then hands it to the rb for a td? slex dont give a **** about fantasy stats. he is unselfish and wants the win.

Possibilities.

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There is more of a push at the position, and assistant head coach Brad Childress finds nothing wrong with that. “Alex Smith has done a great job,” Childress said during training camp in St. Joseph last week. “If you look through the past four years, it’s been fairly comfortable for him. It’s not bad getting uncomfortable. You draft a guy, you look for somebody who can push, and I think it helps everybody up their game. “Competition only makes you better. If we can create it, we’re trying to. Healthy competition is a good thing, and I think we have great, healthy competition in that quarterback room.” Reid thinks that’s one reason why Smith raised his game during training camp. “There’s more competition than before by the nature of it, and as a result I think he’s come out with his best camp,” Reid said. Smith’s performance in the Chiefs’ first two preseason games is another indication. He played one series in the opener against the 49ers and engineered a touchdown drive. His two possessions last weekend at Cincinnati produced a field goal and touchdown pass. In those two games, Smith is 12 for 15 with a passer rating of 125.3. Mahomes has generated his own buzz with his performance — he’s 17 of 23 for 137 yards through two games, with three touchdowns and no interceptions — especially after leading the first-team offense to a touchdown at Cincinnati. Smith has been complimentary of Mahomes, suggesting that the Texas Tech rookie was more advanced in certain areas than he was a rookie. Smith, 33, is beginning his 13th NFL season and coming off a year when he set a career best for yards (3,502) and his 91.2 passer rating was above his career mark. He’s under contract through 2018. Smith has always been Reid’s quarterback in Kansas City. But plans had to be made for the future. “Unfortunately, age comes into this thing,” Reid said. “You get old in this business. At one time (Smith) was the young up-and-comer. That doesn’t mean you’re going to be replaced tomorrow. “But this is what’s real. You’re not as young as you used to be, so you bring a guy in, and this thing keeps position. It’s life. “He treats (Mahomes) him well, and we’re not asking him to do this. That’s not his job. We’re asking him to go wins games and be the best he can be. But they talk. There’s an open communication there that’s healthy.” Smith said he hasn’t approached this season differently than previous ones in Kansas City or San Francisco, where he spent his first eight seasons. “It’s no different,” Smith said “For me, it’s just kind of being myself. I’m going out there and playing and trying to take advantage of my reps and myself for the season as best I can.” But Smith isn’t going to withhold help from Mahomes, even if he is the heir apparent. “Certainly, I’ve been through a lot,” Smith said. “So if there’s something I can help with or see, I am not going to hesitate to vocalize.” As a Texas Tech sophomore, Mahomes beat out the returning starter for the job. When the Chiefs made him the No. 10 overall draft selection, Mahomes and his camp were thrilled not just because he was going to a winning team, but because he’d be playing for a head coach with a reputation for developing quarterbacks, and the fact that he’d get to work alongside Smith. Unlike the other first-round quarterbacks selected — Mitchell Trubisky of the Bears, and the Texans’ Deshaun Watson — Mahomes had the advantage of working with and observing a seasoned veteran who has won playoff games and been named to Pro Bowl teams. What has Mahomes learned from Smith? “Just how efficient he is,” Mahomes said. “It seems like he always has a plan. ‘If they play this defense, I’m going to go here. If they play that defense I’m going there…’ and how he can get himself out of certain situations. It’s something you learn from him every time you watch it. “Really, it’s a great relationship. Just having him in front of me, you can’t even explain how much he teaches me on the sidelines. He’s always helping me out. And at the same time, we’re pushing each other to be better every single day.”
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