Chiefs As Patrick Mahomes settles in, a little discomfort is serving Chiefs’ Alex Smith well - Page 10

**Tribal Warfare** · 08-21-2017, 02:56 PM

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl...168429397.html

As Patrick Mahomes settles in, a little discomfort is serving Chiefs’ Alex Smith well

BY BLAIR KERKHOFF

During his first four years with the Chiefs, quarterback Alex Smith was the unequivocal starter. That doesn’t change as he begins his fifth season, as Andy Reid emphasized Monday.

“It’s Alex’s job,” Reid said. “That’s what it is. There’s no gray area with that.”

But the circumstances are different.

Previous backup quarterbacks in the Reid era, guys like Chase Daniel and Nick Foles, weren’t being groomed as Smith’s successor. Patrick Mahomes is, and that changes the dynamic of the position.

Mahomes, who was shifted from third to second team after the Chiefs first preseason game, is on an upward track. There is more of a push at the position, and assistant head coach Brad Childress finds nothing wrong with that.

“Alex Smith has done a great job,” Childress said during training camp in St. Joseph last week. “If you look through the past four years, it’s been fairly comfortable for him. It’s not bad getting uncomfortable. You draft a guy, you look for somebody who can push, and I think it helps everybody up their game.

“Competition only makes you better. If we can create it, we’re trying to. Healthy competition is a good thing, and I think we have great, healthy competition in that quarterback room.”

Reid thinks that’s one reason why Smith raised his game during training camp.

“There’s more competition than before by the nature of it, and as a result I think he’s come out with his best camp,” Reid said.

Smith’s performance in the Chiefs’ first two preseason games is another indication. He played one series in the opener against the 49ers and engineered a touchdown drive. His two possessions last weekend at Cincinnati produced a field goal and touchdown pass. In those two games, Smith is 12 for 15 with a passer rating of 125.3.

Mahomes has generated his own buzz with his performance — he’s 17 of 23 for 137 yards through two games, with three touchdowns and no interceptions — especially after leading the first-team offense to a touchdown at Cincinnati.

Smith has been complimentary of Mahomes, suggesting that the Texas Tech rookie was more advanced in certain areas than he was a rookie.

Smith, 33, is beginning his 13th NFL season and coming off a year when he set a career best for yards (3,502) and his 91.2 passer rating was above his career mark. He’s under contract through 2018.

Smith has always been Reid’s quarterback in Kansas City. But plans had to be made for the future.

“Unfortunately, age comes into this thing,” Reid said. “You get old in this business. At one time (Smith) was the young up-and-comer. That doesn’t mean you’re going to be replaced tomorrow.

“But this is what’s real. You’re not as young as you used to be, so you bring a guy in, and this thing keeps position. It’s life.

“He treats (Mahomes) him well, and we’re not asking him to do this. That’s not his job. We’re asking him to go wins games and be the best he can be. But they talk. There’s an open communication there that’s healthy.”

Smith said he hasn’t approached this season differently than previous ones in Kansas City or San Francisco, where he spent his first eight seasons.

“It’s no different,” Smith said “For me, it’s just kind of being myself. I’m going out there and playing and trying to take advantage of my reps and myself for the season as best I can.”

But Smith isn’t going to withhold help from Mahomes, even if he is the heir apparent.

“Certainly, I’ve been through a lot,” Smith said. “So if there’s something I can help with or see, I am not going to hesitate to vocalize.”

As a Texas Tech sophomore, Mahomes beat out the returning starter for the job. When the Chiefs made him the No. 10 overall draft selection, Mahomes and his camp were thrilled not just because he was going to a winning team, but because he’d be playing for a head coach with a reputation for developing quarterbacks, and the fact that he’d get to work alongside Smith.

Unlike the other first-round quarterbacks selected — Mitchell Trubisky of the Bears, and the Texans’ Deshaun Watson — Mahomes had the advantage of working with and observing a seasoned veteran who has won playoff games and been named to Pro Bowl teams.

What has Mahomes learned from Smith?

“Just how efficient he is,” Mahomes said. “It seems like he always has a plan. ‘If they play this defense, I’m going to go here. If they play that defense I’m going there…’ and how he can get himself out of certain situations. It’s something you learn from him every time you watch it.

“Really, it’s a great relationship. Just having him in front of me, you can’t even explain how much he teaches me on the sidelines. He’s always helping me out. And at the same time, we’re pushing each other to be better every single day.”

rico · 08-23-2017, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 19now11

why do u guys care about alexs passing tds so much? am i the only 1 who notices he passes the ball all the way down the field and then hands it to the rb for a td? slex dont give a **** about fantasy stats. he is unselfish and wants the win.

In 2016, the Chiefs rushed for 15 TD's which was 13th best in the league which is (drumroll)...average.

15...wow... we've seen that number pop up a couple times!!!

Try again, candy pants!!!!

rico · 08-23-2017, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cooper barrett

Rico, Rico, Rico, I thought we had this worked out. My opinions belong to me, I am not a Mult. You can tear into Sandy all you want but please leave me out of it.

Back to our regularly scheduled thread.....

Why do I feel the way about Alex11..... just look at the top 5 quarterbacks the Chiefs have had over the years.
Len Dawson 13 years 2 SB appearances i SB win!!!! 2 div PO losses
Joe Montana, 3 years 1 divisional championship, 22 years ago
Trent Green, 5 years 2 wild card losses
Alex Smith 4 years 2 wild card losses 1 div PO loss
Bill Kenney 8 years 1 shared wild card loss backing up Blackledge

Lets face it: We suck when it comes to making it to Divisional Playoff games and worse at winning them!The only QB to get a conference Championship Was Lenny Dawson.

Fun Fact:None of these QB's were drafted, all "dog pound" QBs discarded by other teams. Actually we suck at drafting QBs

The way I look at it Alex11 looks pretty good and while remembering the hype about Brody Cryole (the same crap as now...) I have more faith in Alex11 than I do PMll this year to bring us a championship.

**** I wish Sandy would change name to Shirley so I could use Lelslie Nielsen's Gif when I get to post them

Ok, this guy is growing on me already.

**BossChief** · 08-23-2017, 10:54 PM

Damn.

Can some of this trash get romper roomed?

Please?

The whole site is nearly unreadable because about 5 posters that don't even love this team...they came here to follow Alex and destroy every thread with their stupidity.

Seriously. I signed on an hour or so ago and wanted to read some stuff about Mahomes and went into 3 threads that are totally destroyed by this crap.

RippedmyFlesh · 08-23-2017, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Damn.

Can some of this trash get romper roomed?

Please?

The whole site is nearly unreadable because about 5 posters that don't even love this team...they came here to follow Alex and destroy every thread with their stupidity.

Seriously. I signed on an hour or so ago and wanted to read some stuff about Mahomes and went into 3 threads that are totally destroyed by this crap.

The alexsexuals derail every thread on Mahomes.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 08-24-2017, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh

The alexsexuals derail every thread on Mahomes.

Yep.

And I'm just about done even bothering to reply to these idiots.

**Rausch** · 08-24-2017, 07:02 AM

A good situation is good.

No complaints here....

Sandy Vagina · 08-24-2017, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

Yep.

And I'm just about done even bothering to reply to these idiots.

Fellas, THIS would be the way to simmer down the derailments. It's not myself or the "Alex-only idiots" that derail threads... it's YOU PEOPLE that keep addressing and obsessing over the "Alex-only idiots" that derail threads.

Allow everyone a voice on this forum.. as every forum claims to push for.. without turning the focus back onto the poster, and you wouldn't have the very issues you create and then cry about.

**Rausch** · 08-24-2017, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

Fellas, THIS would be the way to simmer down the derailments. It's not myself or the "Alex-only idiots" that derail threads... it's YOU PEOPLE that keep addressing and obsessing over the "Alex-only idiots" that derail threads.

Allow everyone a voice on this forum.. as every forum claims to push for.. without turning the focus back onto the poster, and you wouldn't have the very issues you create and then cry about.

This isn't a new thing.

It was Girlbac/Gannon.

Then it was TrINT.

Then Ca$$hole.

Now it's Alex.

And until this team gets to a SB don't expect it to stop...

**Dartgod** · 08-24-2017, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

Damn.

Can some of this trash get romper roomed?

Please?

The whole site is nearly unreadable because about 5 posters that don't even love this team...they came here to follow Alex and destroy every thread with their stupidity.

Seriously. I signed on an hour or so ago and wanted to read some stuff about Mahomes and went into 3 threads that are totally destroyed by this crap.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh

The alexsexuals derail every thread on Mahomes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

Yep.

And I'm just about done even bothering to reply to these idiots.

I don't know what you are complaining about here. The thread title clearly mentions both Mahomes and Smith. Discussing either or both is perfectly acceptable.

There is a thread specifically dedicated to Mahomes and the mod team is doing it's best to keep that one clear of Alex Smith discussion.

rico · 08-24-2017, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

Fellas, THIS would be the way to simmer down the derailments. It's not myself or the "Alex-only idiots" that derail threads... it's YOU PEOPLE that keep addressing and obsessing over the "Alex-only idiots" that derail threads.

Allow everyone a voice on this forum.. as every forum claims to push for.. without turning the focus back onto the poster, and you wouldn't have the very issues you create and then cry about.

Oh yeah, like you don't ask for it with your absurdity, Mr. if the Chiefs won 2-0, the offense should be credited with doing enough to win the game.

Sandy Vagina · 08-24-2017, 07:51 AM

Let's take a look at this thread, the content in it, and why things go the way they do...

There are 142-ish posts so far in it. The top posters are rico (15), cooper barrett (13), Sandy (11), Tattoo (9), SDH (8), SNR (8)

The first venom begins with SNR.. cursing at penbrook for his thoughts. Penbrook doesn't respond, but still gets another.. bugeater to come insult him too. Still others trying to keep things civil and worthwhile in subsequent posts.

Tatt is into page 3, pushing hard for Mahomes in 2017 as starter.. which is fine.. but is naturally going to get resistance.. even from the "true" Chiefs fans. A 49er fan comes in to get it on it, and a "true" Chiefs fan mocks Kaepernick's unemployment. Aaaand a late pile-on insult to penbrook. he Alex insults still incoming, but getting no real bites.

Then, a MOD comes in to point at cooper's post to insinuate that cooper is a mult of mine. Yay! just what the thread needed! some real burst, amiright?

... and here it comes! rico sees this, and it's on now! His obsession is getting scrutinized by the mods! More piling on (thread topic derailment in full effect now, thanks mod!).

ComoChief tries to bring the rails back from these next burning pages of shit. NOPE. We are still in full mult-mode, none of which has involved myself since the first time I responded to MOD that it ain't me.

rico goes on a post rampage about cooper and sandy... cooper defends self. penbrook tries a couple of times to post Chiefs football stuff, but amidst the many mult-cooper-sandy assaults, it isn't looking good.

Another MOD comes in to.... wait for it... add onto the mult drama by more insinuation!

... and here we are folks. 10 pages... wonderfully derailed.. by whom? Yeah.. go with that.

**ptlyon** · 08-24-2017, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dartgod

I don't know what you are complaining about here. The thread title clearly mentions both Mahomes and Smith. Discussing either or both is perfectly acceptable.

This.

**Rausch** · 08-24-2017, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

... and here we are folks. 10 pages... wonderfully derailed.. by whom?

No one.

The future's so bright right now they should be handing out eclipse glasses with the purchase of season tickets...

**Dartgod** · 08-24-2017, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh

Then, a MOD comes in to point at cooper's post to insinuate that cooper is a mult of mine. Yay! just what the thread needed! some real burst, amiright?

Hey man, I was just making an observation. I thought the Alex11 moniker was a little odd and thought I had seen it before so I did a quick search.

I posted nothing but the truth.

**BigRedChief** · 08-24-2017, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by cooper barrett

She (Kelli Schutz) had the biggest tits on a small woman I ever saw. I saw her throw them up on a bar type counter once, like dam girl!!!! I still get excited thinking about it. She gave new meaning to take a load off.

Goggled her for recent pics but nothing there on the first 1/2 page so gave up. Looks like Brodie is going to run his Dads ranch/school.

They were spectacular.

08-21-2017, 02:56 PM
Tribal Warfare Man of Culture Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $-2977187	As Patrick Mahomes settles in, a little discomfort is serving Chiefs’ Alex Smith well http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl...168429397.html As Patrick Mahomes settles in, a little discomfort is serving Chiefs’ Alex Smith well BY BLAIR KERKHOFF During his first four years with the Chiefs, quarterback Alex Smith was the unequivocal starter. That doesn’t change as he begins his fifth season, as Andy Reid emphasized Monday. “It’s Alex’s job,” Reid said. “That’s what it is. There’s no gray area with that.” But the circumstances are different. Previous backup quarterbacks in the Reid era, guys like Chase Daniel and Nick Foles, weren’t being groomed as Smith’s successor. Patrick Mahomes is, and that changes the dynamic of the position. Mahomes, who was shifted from third to second team after the Chiefs first preseason game, is on an upward track. There is more of a push at the position, and assistant head coach Brad Childress finds nothing wrong with that. “Alex Smith has done a great job,” Childress said during training camp in St. Joseph last week. “If you look through the past four years, it’s been fairly comfortable for him. It’s not bad getting uncomfortable. You draft a guy, you look for somebody who can push, and I think it helps everybody up their game. “Competition only makes you better. If we can create it, we’re trying to. Healthy competition is a good thing, and I think we have great, healthy competition in that quarterback room.” Reid thinks that’s one reason why Smith raised his game during training camp. “There’s more competition than before by the nature of it, and as a result I think he’s come out with his best camp,” Reid said. Smith’s performance in the Chiefs’ first two preseason games is another indication. He played one series in the opener against the 49ers and engineered a touchdown drive. His two possessions last weekend at Cincinnati produced a field goal and touchdown pass. In those two games, Smith is 12 for 15 with a passer rating of 125.3. Mahomes has generated his own buzz with his performance — he’s 17 of 23 for 137 yards through two games, with three touchdowns and no interceptions — especially after leading the first-team offense to a touchdown at Cincinnati. Smith has been complimentary of Mahomes, suggesting that the Texas Tech rookie was more advanced in certain areas than he was a rookie. Smith, 33, is beginning his 13th NFL season and coming off a year when he set a career best for yards (3,502) and his 91.2 passer rating was above his career mark. He’s under contract through 2018. Smith has always been Reid’s quarterback in Kansas City. But plans had to be made for the future. “Unfortunately, age comes into this thing,” Reid said. “You get old in this business. At one time (Smith) was the young up-and-comer. That doesn’t mean you’re going to be replaced tomorrow. “But this is what’s real. You’re not as young as you used to be, so you bring a guy in, and this thing keeps position. It’s life. “He treats (Mahomes) him well, and we’re not asking him to do this. That’s not his job. We’re asking him to go wins games and be the best he can be. But they talk. There’s an open communication there that’s healthy.” Smith said he hasn’t approached this season differently than previous ones in Kansas City or San Francisco, where he spent his first eight seasons. “It’s no different,” Smith said “For me, it’s just kind of being myself. I’m going out there and playing and trying to take advantage of my reps and myself for the season as best I can.” But Smith isn’t going to withhold help from Mahomes, even if he is the heir apparent. “Certainly, I’ve been through a lot,” Smith said. “So if there’s something I can help with or see, I am not going to hesitate to vocalize.” As a Texas Tech sophomore, Mahomes beat out the returning starter for the job. When the Chiefs made him the No. 10 overall draft selection, Mahomes and his camp were thrilled not just because he was going to a winning team, but because he’d be playing for a head coach with a reputation for developing quarterbacks, and the fact that he’d get to work alongside Smith. Unlike the other first-round quarterbacks selected — Mitchell Trubisky of the Bears, and the Texans’ Deshaun Watson — Mahomes had the advantage of working with and observing a seasoned veteran who has won playoff games and been named to Pro Bowl teams. What has Mahomes learned from Smith? “Just how efficient he is,” Mahomes said. “It seems like he always has a plan. ‘If they play this defense, I’m going to go here. If they play that defense I’m going there…’ and how he can get himself out of certain situations. It’s something you learn from him every time you watch it. “Really, it’s a great relationship. Just having him in front of me, you can’t even explain how much he teaches me on the sidelines. He’s always helping me out. And at the same time, we’re pushing each other to be better every single day.”
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