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Old 08-30-2017, 11:49 AM  
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Browns Trade OL Cam Erving To Chiefs
For a 2018 5th Round pick.
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Old 08-30-2017, 03:51 PM   #271
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We need to plug Erving in right away and let Alex Smith get hurt. Would be worth every penny if that happened.
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Old 08-30-2017, 03:53 PM   #272
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Old 08-30-2017, 03:53 PM   #273
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So this week, Veech has signed a LB with knee issues and the worst O linemen in football.

Man I miss Dorsey.
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Old 08-30-2017, 03:54 PM   #274
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So this week, Veech has signed a LB with knee issues and the worst O linemen in football.

Man I miss Dorsey.
Well that's certainly one way to look at it.
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Old 08-30-2017, 03:55 PM   #275
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Doesn't look like it. Look at his upper half on that play - he's trying to anchor and drive there right as the DL makes contact. Even if he wanted to move his foot back, I don't think he could've.

He just ended up so upright in his stance that the DL got under his pads and absolutely ****ed him up. As soon as he makes contact with the DL, his forward momentum just stopped. But you get no indication from anything else on his body that he was prepared to be driven backwards - he was selling out for drive and did such a bad job staying low that he got detonated.

Hard to find an excuse for that play - everything about it was bad.
I seen he was really upright and knew he was ****ed but thought the center caught his foot and wasn't able to step back to try and recover.

Yeah it was really shitty
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Old 08-30-2017, 03:56 PM   #276
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So this week, Veech has signed a LB with knee issues and the worst O linemen in football.

Man I miss Dorsey.
You're right to judge so quickly. Veech=failure
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We need to plug Erving in right away and let Alex Smith get hurt. Would be worth every penny if that happened.
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Old 08-30-2017, 03:59 PM   #278
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I seen he was really upright and knew he was ****ed but thought the center caught his foot and wasn't able to step back to try and recover.

Yeah it was really shitty
Like I said, it just looks like he's so committed to that initial drive block that 'step back and try to recover' wasn't even a thought on his mind at the time.

I could be wrong, but to my eyes that just looks like a guy getting fed his lunch because he ****ed up real bad, real fast.
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Old 08-30-2017, 04:00 PM   #279
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We need to plug Erving in right away and let Alex Smith get hurt. Would be worth every penny if that happened.
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You're right to judge so quickly. Veech=failure
Veech was just tooting his own horn a while back talking about not needing the waiver wire because there is So much talent on this team-then trades for two scrubs.

He could have signed equal and cheaper talent after cut down day and saved us the draft picks.
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Old 08-30-2017, 04:03 PM   #281
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Old 08-30-2017, 04:04 PM   #282
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Veech was just tooting his own horn a while back talking about not needing the waiver wire because there is So much talent on this team
C'mon no one actually believed that.
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Veech was just tooting his own horn a while back talking about not needing the waiver wire because there is So much talent on this team-then trades for two scrubs.

He could have signed equal and cheaper talent after cut down day and saved us the draft picks.
Man, with that amount of vitriol you woulda thought it was Veach that used a first on him to begin with.

I don't think you can find his raw physical talent on the FA wire. Not at that age anyway.

He used a 5th to try to get some upside baked into a backup. There are a hell of a lot worse uses of a 5th round pick than that. If he goes into the market after cuts, you know who he's gonna find? Jah Reid and his ilk. He's gonna find aging guys that are past their primes and can't necessarily be coached up as much as they can be managed/limped along through their twilights. And sure, the floor on those guys is probably higher than on Erving.

But for a backup OL, I see a fair amount of utility in gambling on upside.
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Take it easy on my buddy halfcan. He's ingested too much MSG.

He means well.
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