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Old 10-16-2017, 08:47 AM  
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Let's talk about Harris's catch.
We have visual evidence he had control of the ball with two feet down.

If someone leans forward and puts the ball across the goal line, then gets it batted away by the defense before he's down, its still a TD.

Reid says he didn't think it was a catch, so he didn't challenge. Why not challenge anyway. Sometimes you get the call when you didn't think you had a chance.

The only way I can see thats not a catch is that stupid rule of controlling the ball when going to the ground.

I havent heard from anyone who knows the rules inside and out. Was this a case of not controlling the ball when going to the ground?
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Old 10-16-2017, 08:59 AM   #16
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Yet I still don't get why Smith looks at Harris when in the redzone.
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Old 10-16-2017, 09:00 AM   #17
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It's objective
Maybe I am missing it then, can you objectively tell me how long Harris would need to retain possession?
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Old 10-16-2017, 09:00 AM   #18
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I officially have no idea what is and isn't a catch in today's NFL.
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Old 10-16-2017, 09:00 AM   #19
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He didn't control it all the way thru.

Control and 2 feet down on a catch in the emdzone don't automatically make it a catch in today's nfl


Ball broke the plane of the endzone.


2 feet down Ball in 2 hands in endzone = catch, play over.

It's not debatable unless NFL.
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I officially have no idea what is and isn't a catch in today's NFL.
It's ok....neither do the refs.
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Old 10-16-2017, 09:01 AM   #21
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You can't say Reid should have challenged it, but then say 'well, it wouldn't have been ruled a catch anyway'.

That's just ****ing stupid. If you believe that, then you're okay with him just arbitrarily wasting a time out (which people bitch about him doing all the time). He would have needed that TO at the end of the game to have a shot to win.
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Old 10-16-2017, 09:01 AM   #22
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And according to the NFL there isn't a process to complete a catch.

That have no ****ing clue what a catch really is anymore.
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The endzone is different though.
Item 3. End Zone Catches. The requirements for a catch in the end zone are the same as the requirements for a catch in the field of play.
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Old 10-16-2017, 09:02 AM   #24
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Ball broke the plane of the endzone.


2 feet down Ball in 2 hands in endzone = catch, play over.

It's not debatable unless NFL.
Still has to complete the "process" which didn't happen IMO
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Still has to complete the "process" which didn't happen IMO
Yet no one knows exactly what the "process" is anymore.
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Old 10-16-2017, 09:03 AM   #26
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you still challenge, regardless.
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Item 3. End Zone Catches. The requirements for a catch in the end zone are the same as the requirements for a catch in the field of play.
Exactly how can an offensive player have possession of the football in the end zone and then fumble?
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I thought it was a catch/TD, but I also do not have a clear understanding of the rules.

I also think that had we challenged, there was not enough evidence to overturn it.
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Exactly how can an offensive player have possession of the football in the end zone and then fumble?
He can't. But apparently he has to maintain control long enough to become a runner in the end zone, too.

Which seems stupid, honestly.
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Yet no one knows exactly what the "process" is anymore.
True. We have seen the NFL changes calls if the ball even moves a little bit during the catch. To me this wasn't even close to catch and more likely would have been an INT if it didn't hit the ground.

The bigger question is why they continue to put Harris in situations like this because he can't catch worth a damn.
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