Chiefs Why are so many national writers so high on the Chargers? - Page 8

TLO · 05-15-2018, 11:01 AM

Flavor of the off-season or are the Chargers a legit Super Bowl contender.

Let's discuss in here.

Titty Meat · 05-15-2018, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Color Red

No national writer is ever going out of the way to talk off season about the Chiefs because at the end of the day, you are talking about the sum total of the 30th largest metro out there and its team. Throwing talk out there at this furthest point from the season means realistically nothing except possibly ginning up audience interest, and that in second largest market or thereabouts --and that, split with the Rams. Just sell readership, baby.

The media sucked the Chiefs dick the past few years and love Reid. What are you talking about?

sully1983 · 05-15-2018, 11:47 PM

Yeah I don't get it either. That hot take idiot Colin Cowherd is salivating over them.

Can't wait for Rivers to have his "worst day ever " again

CoMoChief · 05-16-2018, 12:01 AM

The Chargers have always been paper tigers

just like the current Raiders teams

oh yeah **** Denver too, they'e gonna be the worst team in the AFCW this season.

WhiteWhale · 05-16-2018, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Melvin Gordon sucks. Dude hasn't broken 4.0 YPC in his career yet.

Keenan Allen can barely finish a season.

Philip Rivers, though i'm a fan of the man, his play on the field is below average. Dude hasn't been the Philip Rivers people know for about the last 5 years now.

The defense is legit. And sure they have some nice pieces. But they're still the Chargers. The Chargers are the epitome of perpetual mediocrity.

More like seven years ago.

Shouldn't be too surprising he's not as good without a prime Antonio Gates and Ladainian Tomlinson.

Rivers is a poor man's Peyton Manning. He's an immobile pocket QB that struggles in high pressure situations. Manning always played below his own standard in high pressure/playoff situations, but he was SO ****ing good.

So does Rivers, but he's less good. So often it's bubble games in the regular season. Win and you're in situations, and he'll play a shit game.

Any given sunday in the regular season you better be prepared, because he can put it on you. Unless the playoffs are on the line. Then he'll toss 3 picks.

WhiteWhale · 05-16-2018, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

https://youtu.be/rOjIWLwHU0E

I literally started laughing when they called Melvin Gordon 'a beast'

5 games he's had 100+ yards.

Only 5 games he's averaged more than 5 yards per carry.

Kareem matched/topped those in 1 season.

Maybe in 1973 you could call a 3.9 YPC back a 'beast', but not when they're always running against DB heavy sub packages.

Gordon sucks.

eDave · 05-16-2018, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Elway says they are the team to beat.

https://youtu.be/SfN53D08si8

He's starting to look like Marty.

**Rain Man** · 05-16-2018, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

I literally started laughing when they called Melvin Gordon 'a beast'

5 games he's had 100+ yards.

Only 5 games he's averaged more than 5 yards per carry.

Kareem matched/topped those in 1 season.

Maybe in 1973 you could call a 3.9 YPC back a 'beast', but not when they're always running against DB heavy sub packages.

Gordon sucks.

He hasn't hit the 4.0 ypc mark in a season yet. He's only a beast if you consider a sloth to be a beast.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 05-16-2018, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

I literally started laughing when they called Melvin Gordon 'a beast'

5 games he's had 100+ yards.

Only 5 games he's averaged more than 5 yards per carry.

Kareem matched/topped those in 1 season.

Maybe in 1973 you could call a 3.9 YPC back a 'beast', but not when they're always running against DB heavy sub packages.

Gordon sucks.

Wow, those are staggering numbers. The dude is basically just a goalline TD machine but pretty much trash besides that.

Mile High Mania · 05-16-2018, 08:32 AM

The Chargers are not a terrible team when you look at the talent. They appear to have most of the key parts in place to be consistently successful.

Rivers is way more than capable and can rally them - his numbers have been phenomenal for the most part. He is obviously the head of the class in the division right now.

They were 6-2 after the bye and had it not been for that terrible 0-4 start, who knows what would have happend in 2017. Of their 7 losses, two were by 2 points and two were by 3 points... lost twice to KC, once to the Eagles and once to the Jaguars. Chiefs gave them their 2 worst losses.

So, again... solid draft last year, good team and they've made some good moves this offseason/draft. I totally get why there's a lot of love for them. The Raiders are a mystery and I would wager a guess that many are hitting pause on KC because you have a young promising QB with only 1 start and some still question the defense.

Chiefs
@ Bills
@ Rams
49ers
Raiders

That's an interesting opening 5 for them and if they open up with a loss, followed by mishaps on the road... could spell trouble vs a solid 49ers team and then the Raiders.

If they come out of that with 3-4 wins - they would prove worthy of the chatter right now.

**Buck** · 05-16-2018, 10:03 AM

I think their defense is hyped up right now. I question the middle linebackers, but elsewhere they seem stacked. If Perryman can stay healthy, they could have an elite defense at all positions.

The offense is good enough to put up 20-24 points a game and this isn't the arena league so that should be enough to win games.

They are also the Chargers so they could easily go 4-12.

Buckweath · 05-16-2018, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Buck

I think their defense is hyped up right now. I question the middle linebackers, but elsewhere they seem stacked. If Perryman can stay healthy, they could have an elite defense at all positions.

The offense is good enough to put up 20-24 points a game and this isn't the arena league so that should be enough to win games.

They are also the Chargers so they could easily go 4-12.

Their Dline should be good because of Bosa but it is really nothing special (Mebane is old and was ineffective last year, Liuget suspended 4 games and a bunch of backups).

Their OLB opposite Ingram seems like a weakness too.

I'm not even sure their defense will be better than the Chiefs' honestly but I guess I would give them the edge based on the Chiefs' uncertainty at the CB position.

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WhiteWhale · 05-16-2018, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Wow, those are staggering numbers. The dude is basically just a goalline TD machine but pretty much trash besides that.

He's a decent receiver out of the backfield and he can be tough on short yardage downs.

Yanno how Kareem Hunt had 3 50+ yard TD's in his first 3 games? 4 plays over 50 yards in total?

How many 50+ yard rushes/receptions do you think Melvin Gordon has?

One.

854 touches, and he's had one play over 50 yards.

Kareem Hunt had 2 in his rookie debut. A 58 yard rush and a 78 yard reception.

BlackOp · 05-16-2018, 12:49 PM

Rivers is essentially Stafford at this point...a good stat QB with nothing to show for it. Someone who "might" beat you...but if you are an 8-8 or better team...probably wont.

KC has beaten them 8 times is a row....and Rivers "greatness" has averaged 14 points.

Halfcan · 05-16-2018, 01:18 PM

Seriously, who would you rather have on your team.

Old Man Rivers and Beast Gordon

or

Mahomes and Hunt

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05-16-2018, 08:32 AM	#114
Mile High Mania #triggering Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $907229	The Chargers are not a terrible team when you look at the talent. They appear to have most of the key parts in place to be consistently successful. Rivers is way more than capable and can rally them - his numbers have been phenomenal for the most part. He is obviously the head of the class in the division right now. They were 6-2 after the bye and had it not been for that terrible 0-4 start, who knows what would have happend in 2017. Of their 7 losses, two were by 2 points and two were by 3 points... lost twice to KC, once to the Eagles and once to the Jaguars. Chiefs gave them their 2 worst losses. So, again... solid draft last year, good team and they've made some good moves this offseason/draft. I totally get why there's a lot of love for them. The Raiders are a mystery and I would wager a guess that many are hitting pause on KC because you have a young promising QB with only 1 start and some still question the defense. Chiefs @ Bills @ Rams 49ers Raiders That's an interesting opening 5 for them and if they open up with a loss, followed by mishaps on the road... could spell trouble vs a solid 49ers team and then the Raiders. If they come out of that with 3-4 wins - they would prove worthy of the chatter right now. __________________
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Buck Take a Chill Pill Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Carolina Casino cash: $5990295	I think their defense is hyped up right now. I question the middle linebackers, but elsewhere they seem stacked. If Perryman can stay healthy, they could have an elite defense at all positions. The offense is good enough to put up 20-24 points a game and this isn't the arena league so that should be enough to win games. They are also the Chargers so they could easily go 4-12.
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BlackOp MVP Join Date: Oct 2012 Casino cash: $2595267	Rivers is essentially Stafford at this point...a good stat QB with nothing to show for it. Someone who "might" beat you...but if you are an 8-8 or better team...probably wont. KC has beaten them 8 times is a row....and Rivers "greatness" has averaged 14 points.
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