Royals *** Official 2018-2019 Royals Offseason Repository *** - Page 19

Coach · 02:18 PM

As the season comes to a close after an awful season, there is a possibility of some hope since the team played better in late August to the end of the season.

Here are all the important dates you need to know for the 2018-19 MLB offseason. Some of them do involve the Royals, such as:

Oct. 29: As of 9 a.m. ET on Monday, all eligible players are free agents (Escobar - good riddance).

Oct. 31: Most contract option decisions are due on this date (Hammel should be declined, resulting $2 million buyout and Peralta should be accepted, resulting $3 million increase to the payroll, and could be future flip for additional minor leaguers if he performs well).

Spoiler!

Nov. 2: Deadline for teams to tender their eligible FA the qualifying offer.

Spoiler!

Nov. 3: Free agency begins.

Nov. 4: Gold Glove winners announced (Gordon & Perez).

Spoiler!

Nov. 6-8: General manager meetings in Carlsbad, California.

Nov. 12: Deadline for free agents to accept or reject the qualifying offer.

Nov. 14-15: Owners meetings in Atlanta (possible future CBA discussions).

Nov. 20: Deadline for teams to add eligible minor leaguers to the 40-man roster to protect them from the Rule 5 Draft.

Spoiler!

Nov. 26-29: MLB Players Association executive board meeting in Dallas (possible future CBA discussions).

Nov. 30: Non-tender deadline.

Dec. 9-13: Winter Meetings in Las Vegas. This is typically when all offseason hell breaks loose.

Dec. 13: Rule 5 Draft (could see the Royals taking a stab here).

Jan. 11: Deadline for teams and arbitration-eligible players to submit 2019 salary figures (I believe KC has some arb-eligible players).

Feb. 1-20: Arbitration hearings. You win some, you lose some.

Mid-Feb. : SPRING TRAINING!

As usual, let's have a good off-season discussion on ways that the Royals can/should/would do to improve. I will try to update the OP as the off-season goes along. And Duncan, you're more than welcome to provide us some information that I can add onto the OP. Just let me know.

To see the 2018 Royals thread, go here.

Chiefspants · 12-13-2018, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13

Yeah but he has to stick on the roster all year. A lot of the Toronto writers I see on Twitter are very skeptical of the move.

We got Luciano in the Jon Jay trade.

Yeah, I'm guessing the Royals didn't think anyone would take him due to age.

We'll see if the Jays can stash him away in the 25 man roster for a year.

DJ's left nut · 12-13-2018, 12:47 PM

Y'all have also traded for the Rangers Rule 5 selection; Chris Ellis from the Cardinals.

JAG through and through. Maybe they think converting him to relief will get his stuff to play up to a viable swing-man role. I honestly have no idea why anyone selected him - every organization in baseball has a dozen guys just like him. Needing to clear a 40 man spot for him is a bridge too far, IMO. Let alone a 25 man spot.

DJ's left nut · 12-13-2018, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13

Apparently we also lost Elvis Luciano, a high upside 18 year old pitcher to the Blue Jays. That's strange that he was even available. We'll see if he can stick in the majors.

You essentially traded Sam McWilliams for him. If you pass on your Rule 5 pick, my memory is that it allows you to protect another player not currently on your 40 man.

It's bizarre that Luciano is even Rule 5 eligible to me. There must be some caveat to the Rule 5 that I'm unaware of. Generally speaking a guy signed under 18 years of age isn't eligible for the Rule 5 until his 5th Rule 5 draft period.

Near as I can tell this should only be his 3rd. There must be some kind of weird wrinkle in there for guys that signed as a free agent and are never technically draft eligible. I really have no idea why he needed to be protected.

OKchiefs · 12-13-2018, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

You essentially traded Sam McWilliams for him. If you pass on your Rule 5 pick, my memory is that it allows you to protect another player not currently on your 40 man.

It's bizarre that Luciano is even Rule 5 eligible to me. There must be some caveat to the Rule 5 that I'm unaware of. Generally speaking a guy signed under 18 years of age isn't eligible for the Rule 5 until his 5th Rule 5 draft period.

Near as I can tell this should only be his 3rd. There must be some kind of weird wrinkle in there for guys that signed as a free agent and are never technically draft eligible. I really have no idea why he needed to be protected.

I believe it's something to do with him having to renegotiate his original rookie contract that made him eligible.

DJ's left nut · 12-13-2018, 12:58 PM

Best I can determine is that it was because he signed a contract with Arizona that was declared void due to a failed physical. That made him a free agent and he re-signed, thus become immediately subject to the Rule 5.

Man...that REALLY hamstrung his trade value and would explain how the Royals got him for Jay. It isn't just that he was available to be taken this year that was a problem, but that he'd have been available for the foreseeable future. And if the Royals wanted to protect him even next season they'd have to start using option years on him after adding him to the 40. He'd smoke through those option years by 22/23 years old.

For a guy that raw, that's putting a clock on him that's wildly unfair for both him and the organization. I guess it's easier to hide a relief pitcher in the DL league when you've got less pressure on your bench but still - that's a tough guy to have to deal with in your organization. There are just a lot of impediments to successfully developing him.

WhawhaWhat · 01-09-2019, 09:51 AM

Dayton Moore staying busy during the offseason.

DJJasonp · 01-09-2019, 10:01 AM

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WhawhaWhat · 01-09-2019, 02:12 PM

Royals announce start times for 2019 season. Standard times will be:
Monday-Friday: 7:15 p.m.
Saturday: 6:15 p.m.
Sunday: 1:15 p.m.
— Pete Grathoff (@pgrathoff) January 9, 2019

dallaschiefsfan · 01-12-2019, 09:57 AM

Cheslor cleared waivers and was outrighted to Omaha...so they're keeping him around. He won't sniff the majors this year, but he better take advantage of his opportunity to revive his prospects with consistent play at Omaha.

DeepSouth · 01-21-2019, 01:07 PM

Pitches and Catchers report to training camp in three weeks and two days.

**ChiTown** · 01-21-2019, 01:12 PM

AAAA Baseball lives in KC.....yet again!

duncan_idaho · 01-23-2019, 02:26 PM

Baseball Prospectus released its top 101 today...

Matias (52)
Lee (61)
Melendez (67)

All made it. Singer was in the next ten.

So, according to one outlet, the Royals have 4 of the top 101. It’s not an excellent system and still lacks some star power, but it’s major progress.

With a good draft and adding either Witt or Rutschman at the top, KC should be positioned to be a top 1/2 system and possibly better by the end of this season.

Great Expectations · 01-23-2019, 02:30 PM

If the college arms we drafted move thru quickly we could be top 10 by August.

duncan_idaho · 01-25-2019, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Expectations

If the college arms we drafted move thru quickly we could be top 10 by August.

If Daniel Lynch holds his velocity gains, he’s a top 100 guy at mid season, IMO.

Kowar and Singer absolutely can jump into that mix, too. Baseball America already has Singer as a top 100 guy.

Which is pretty typical... Baseball America tends to prioritize safety and proximity to the majors more in its lists. Prospectus is more focused on upside and tools (and accounts for D better)

BWillie · 01-25-2019, 01:28 PM

Alright I'm ready for the suck guys. Go Royals. Lets go get Bobby Witt Jr.

10-29-2018, 09:05 PM
Coach Champs! Join Date: Mar 2004 Casino cash: $3738476	* Official 2018-2019 Royals Offseason Repository * As the season comes to a close after an awful season, there is a possibility of some hope since the team played better in late August to the end of the season. Here are all the important dates you need to know for the 2018-19 MLB offseason. Some of them do involve the Royals, such as: Oct. 29: As of 9 a.m. ET on Monday, all eligible players are free agents (Escobar - good riddance). Oct. 31: Most contract option decisions are due on this date (Hammel should be declined, resulting $2 million buyout and Peralta should be accepted, resulting $3 million increase to the payroll, and could be future flip for additional minor leaguers if he performs well). Spoiler! 10/30/2018 - Hammel's option has been declined. 10/31/2018 - Peralta apparently received new 1 year contract with 2020 option. Contract Details. 10/31/2018 - Nate Karns is a Free Agent. Nov. 2: Deadline for teams to tender their eligible FA the qualifying offer. Spoiler! 11/02/2018 - Brandon Maurer elects to FA & Orlando & Torres outrighted to Omaha, will be minor league FA's. 11/02/2018 - Corresponding moves is Cuthburt, Hahn, & Soler reinstated. Nov. 3: Free agency begins. Nov. 4: Gold Glove winners announced (Gordon & Perez). Spoiler! 11/04/2018 - Salvy wins his fifth Gold Glove. 11/04/2018 - Gordon wins his sixth Gold Glove. Nov. 6-8: General manager meetings in Carlsbad, California. Nov. 12: Deadline for free agents to accept or reject the qualifying offer. Nov. 14-15: Owners meetings in Atlanta (possible future CBA discussions). Nov. 20: Deadline for teams to add eligible minor leaguers to the 40-man roster to protect them from the Rule 5 Draft. Spoiler! The Royals announced they've added RHPs Arnaldo Hernandez, Josh Staumont and Scott Blewett to the 40-man roster, protecting them from next month's Rule 5 draft. Blewett appeared to take a big step in the Arizona Fall League. The 40-man roster is full right now. — Rustin Dodd (@rustindodd) November 20, 2018 Nov. 26-29: MLB Players Association executive board meeting in Dallas (possible future CBA discussions). Nov. 30: Non-tender deadline. Dec. 9-13: Winter Meetings in Las Vegas. This is typically when all offseason hell breaks loose. Dec. 13: Rule 5 Draft (could see the Royals taking a stab here). Jan. 11: Deadline for teams and arbitration-eligible players to submit 2019 salary figures (I believe KC has some arb-eligible players). Feb. 1-20: Arbitration hearings. You win some, you lose some. Mid-Feb. : SPRING TRAINING! As usual, let's have a good off-season discussion on ways that the Royals can/should/would do to improve. I will try to update the OP as the off-season goes along. And Duncan, you're more than welcome to provide us some information that I can add onto the OP. Just let me know. To see the 2018 Royals thread, go here. Last edited by Coach; 11-20-2018 at 02:18 PM..
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