Someone is going to get a steal w/ Omenihu

ntexascardfan · 03-01-2019, 03:57 PM

Rashan Gary DE (Michigan): 6 4" 3/8; 277lb; 81 wingspan

Clein Ferrell DE (Clemson): 6 4" 3/8; 264lb, 82 wingspan

Nick Bosa DE (Ohio St): 6 3" 6/8; 266lb; 77 wingspan

Charles Omenihu DE (Texas): 6 5" 3/8; 280lb; 85 wingspan

Dude had to play in a 3/4 defense for the past few years at Texas...but will be a monster in a 4-3. He can play on either side of the line and has surprising burst for someone his size.

If all the top DB's are gone by the end of the first I'd take him. If Speaks doesn't take the next step this year he can fill in...if we let Ford walk after next season he could easily be the pass rushing DE to step up and fill in his space as well.

He's a guy who can stay on the field regardless of whether we are in our base or sub packages.

staylor26 · 03-01-2019, 04:21 PM

Yea that’s the edge rusher I like the most in this draft outside of the top guys that will already be gone.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 03-01-2019, 04:28 PM

He was impressive at the Senior Bowl

Chris Meck · 03-01-2019, 06:21 PM

If you can somehow have a 4-3 DE at 280 lbs. that is also QUICK as a pass rusher, then you can really crush offensive lines, you can play light and fast at LB...

I'm in.

kccrow · 03-01-2019, 07:27 PM

I like Austin Bryant a little better but would not mind Omenihu.

ntexascardfan · 03-12-2019, 10:19 PM

It seems like a Austin Bryant or Charles Omenihu type is getting more likely in the first...especially if we sign a FA CB.

CoMoChief · 03-12-2019, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

I like Austin Bryant a little better but would not mind Omenihu.

I think Bryant is good, but is more a product of playing around a bunch of studs.

ntexascardfan · 03-12-2019, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

I think Bryant is good, but is more a product of playing around a bunch of studs.

That's my feeling too, I haven't seen him projected higher than a third...but kccrow seems pretty adamant that he's a stud, so I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt.

I honestly like how Omenihu would project on our line and he really showed out in Texas' bowl game v. Georgia and blew it up at the senior bowl when he had the chance to play in a 4 man front.

htismaqe · 03-12-2019, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Yea that’s the edge rusher I like the most in this draft outside of the top guys that will already be gone.

After reading your posts and doing some research, I like him. He's my #1 edge wish right now, thanks to you.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 03-12-2019, 10:54 PM

Chiefs like him a lot from all that I’ve read.

ntexascardfan · 03-13-2019, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

After reading your posts and doing some research, I like him. He's my #1 edge wish right now, thanks to you.

He was on Rome the other day and gave a great interview.

https://www.jimrome.com/media/audio-...harles-omenihu

kccrow · 03-13-2019, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

I think Bryant is good, but is more a product of playing around a bunch of studs.

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Originally Posted by ntexascardfan

That's my feeling too, I haven't seen him projected higher than a third...but kccrow seems pretty adamant that he's a stud, so I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt.

I honestly like how Omenihu would project on our line and he really showed out in Texas' bowl game v. Georgia and blew it up at the senior bowl when he had the chance to play in a 4 man front.

Sometimes studs play with studs, and that's really the case at Clemson. That front 4 for Clemson is so good because they are all individually good. Really, all 4 are guys that should go in the first 2 rounds of the draft. They can all win one-on-ones. They all have desirable traits in one facet or another.

When I watch games of Bryant and Omenihu back-to-back, the get-off, bend, closing burst, overall speed and agility, hand usage and energy level all favor Bryant heavily IMO. You also see Bryant generate a lot more consistent pressure on the QB by winning his match-ups and on second-effort. Bryant needs some work but I think Omenihu needs a lot more work. My opinion on Bryant is that his play strength and ball awareness significantly improved from 2017 to 2018 and he's on the ascent.

ntexascardfan · 03-13-2019, 10:55 AM

We might have to agree to disagree on the upside you see in Bryant.

Him + Omenihu were asked to be completely different players at the college level. I think my biggest point of difference with you would be over hand use and pass rushing moves. Omenihu has some of the best hands in this draft and has a variety of pass rush moves in his arsenal...he spent most of his time at Texas beating guys inside, but proved v. Georgia and at the Senior bowl that he can get you from outside as well.

Personally, I feel Omenihu gives you more flexibility and will find it easier to stay on the field in sub packages, whereas I don't see Bryant as a guy who will hold up inside as well when asked to take on more gap responsibilities and free up room for linebackers when we're not in a four man front.

kccrow · 03-13-2019, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ntexascardfan

We might have to agree to disagree on the upside you see in Bryant.

Him + Omenihu were asked to be completely different players at the college level. I think my biggest point of difference with you would be over hand use and pass rushing moves. Omenihu has some of the best hands in this draft and has a variety of pass rush moves in his arsenal...he spent most of his time at Texas beating guys inside, but proved v. Georgia and at the Senior bowl that he can get you from outside as well.

Personally, I feel Omenihu gives you more flexibility and will find it easier to stay on the field in sub packages, whereas I don't see Bryant as a guy who will hold up inside as well when asked to take on more gap responsibilities and free up room for linebackers when we're not in a four man front.

Not being in a 4-man front will pretty much be never with Spags unless he completely changed his scheme during his off year. He's about as straight forward as you get in terms of what he does with his d-line. The one thing Bryant does do well is drop back into space on zone-blitzes, something that Omenihu cannot provide. Spags runs more of that than he will an odd front.

ntexascardfan · 03-13-2019, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

Not being in a 4-man front will pretty much be never with Spags unless he completely changed his scheme during his off year. He's about as straight forward as you get in terms of what he does with his d-line. The one thing Bryant does do well is drop back into space on zone-blitzes, something that Omenihu cannot provide. Spags runs more of that than he will an odd front.

If you don't think Omenihu can't drop back into zone you didn't watch much of his film.

Todd Orlando would often drop his DE's back into zones and bring LB's and safeties in on blitzes....it's actually a staple of his scheme.

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ntexascardfan Starter Join Date: Nov 2009 Casino cash: $4844900	Someone is going to get a steal w/ Omenihu Rashan Gary DE (Michigan): 6 4" 3/8; 277lb; 81 wingspan Clein Ferrell DE (Clemson): 6 4" 3/8; 264lb, 82 wingspan Nick Bosa DE (Ohio St): 6 3" 6/8; 266lb; 77 wingspan Charles Omenihu DE (Texas): 6 5" 3/8; 280lb; 85 wingspan Dude had to play in a 3/4 defense for the past few years at Texas...but will be a monster in a 4-3. He can play on either side of the line and has surprising burst for someone his size. If all the top DB's are gone by the end of the first I'd take him. If Speaks doesn't take the next step this year he can fill in...if we let Ford walk after next season he could easily be the pass rushing DE to step up and fill in his space as well. He's a guy who can stay on the field regardless of whether we are in our base or sub packages.
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ntexascardfan Starter Join Date: Nov 2009 Casino cash: $4844900	We might have to agree to disagree on the upside you see in Bryant. Him + Omenihu were asked to be completely different players at the college level. I think my biggest point of difference with you would be over hand use and pass rushing moves. Omenihu has some of the best hands in this draft and has a variety of pass rush moves in his arsenal...he spent most of his time at Texas beating guys inside, but proved v. Georgia and at the Senior bowl that he can get you from outside as well. Personally, I feel Omenihu gives you more flexibility and will find it easier to stay on the field in sub packages, whereas I don't see Bryant as a guy who will hold up inside as well when asked to take on more gap responsibilities and free up room for linebackers when we're not in a four man front.
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