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Old 02-06-2020, 09:45 PM  
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How to play this off-season with free agency?

I don't know the cap space that well so people smarter will have to tell me what we can do. I'm just excited to see how good this team can get. All the building blocks are in place. It's a matter of how we can supplement the pieces. And I know retain the big pieces is most important.

So assuming we can keep Chris Jones and give Pat an extension, will we have any room at all in the cap to make impact additions? Keeping Sammy looks unlikely. Not sure how many of our corners we can keep?

Even if we play it perfect, will there be any cap left to add some vet free agents? It seems like a pretty strong offensive line class in free agency if we could add one or two. Or if we could add an LB (although Hitchens make a lot). Or a vet corner? Trade possibilities?

I'm just trying to get a realistic grid of what potential moves we can make. I know hitting on picks in the draft will be the biggest way to improve. But if we can get some discounted vets or something, that could go a long way into having freedom in drafting more luxury picks.
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Old 02-06-2020, 09:57 PM   #2
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We have around 17 mil in cap space. We won’t sign any flashy free agents. Look for value signing like Damien Wilson was or a Mike Pennel. Pat will get paid and gotta re sign Jones then do something about Watkins
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Old 02-06-2020, 09:59 PM   #3
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Jones ain’t coming back. Trade him and take picks with immediate value.
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Old 02-06-2020, 10:02 PM   #4
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Jones ain’t coming back. Trade him and take picks with immediate value.
It’s been reported by plenty of people that Jones will get tagged if no long term deal is reached. He will be here next year
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Old 02-06-2020, 10:21 PM   #5
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We have around 17 mil in cap space. We won’t sign any flashy free agents. Look for value signing like Damien Wilson was or a Mike Pennel. Pat will get paid and gotta re sign Jones then do something about Watkins
Does Pat's contract count against the cap this year or next if extended? I heard the new CBA might have a clause to make QB contracts separate. Any chance to restructure contracts or get discounts? I thought if we cut some people we can at least create a little space. But maybe that will still be used up just to re-sign people.

Yeah, I don't understand the Watkins situation. Whether he is trying to take a year off or get paid, doesn't sound like we can retain him. Probably not even trade in that case. But I guess we need to try to get as many picks as we can if that is our only method of improvement.
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Old 02-06-2020, 10:29 PM   #6
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Trade Watkins or release him
Tag Jones, listen to offers, and trade if you get a good return; Otherwise extend
Sign Pennel
Sign Fuller for a reasonable number (if possible)
Keep Reiter as a back-up; draft a new starting center
Sign Wis to a 1-year deal; Wis and Rankin start at guards
Draft BPA, but hope for LB, CB, Interior OL, RB (mid-late)
Sign Vet WR
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Old 02-06-2020, 10:31 PM   #7
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Does Pat's contract count against the cap this year or next if extended? I heard the new CBA might have a clause to make QB contracts separate. Any chance to restructure contracts or get discounts? I thought if we cut some people we can at least create a little space. But maybe that will still be used up just to re-sign people.

Yeah, I don't understand the Watkins situation. Whether he is trying to take a year off or get paid, doesn't sound like we can retain him. Probably not even trade in that case. But I guess we need to try to get as many picks as we can if that is our only method of improvement.
There is no way Mahomes is playing this upcoming year for 2 million dollars. Wait till the new CBA is in place then get a deal done. Either way Mahomes is getting paid this offseason. The longer Mahomes waits to sign a deal the more leverage he has. As for Watkins it’s been reported that Veach will try and retain Watkins. I don’t know how but Veach is a wizard
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Old 02-06-2020, 10:32 PM   #8
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Trade Watkins or release him
Tag Jones, listen to offers, and trade if you get a good return; Otherwise extend
Sign Pennel
Sign Fuller for a reasonable number (if possible)
Sign Reiter to back-up money; draft a new starting center
Sign Wis to a 1-year deal; Wis and Rankin start at guards
Draft BPA, but hope for LB, CB, Interior OL, RB (mid-late)
Sign Vet WR
Reiter isn’t a FA. Has one more year left
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Reiter isn’t a FA. Has one more year left
I thought he was. Either way, find a new starter. He’s a good back up.
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Old 02-06-2020, 10:36 PM   #10
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Old 02-06-2020, 10:54 PM   #11
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If we end up losing Fuller, Breeland, Watkins, and DRob, that is tough. Especially if we aren't getting picks in return or it doesn't create enough cap for replacements.

We can draft there, but we need players we know we can count on. We won't want to rely on rookies that heavily.
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Sorry but that’s not happening. He wants 7-10 mil per year
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Sorry but that’s not happening. He wants 7-10 mil per year
I’d keep him over Jones. Jones is a one trick pony and his replacement (Pennel) is better and cheaper. Tag and trade
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I’d keep him over Jones. Jones is a one trick pony and his replacement (Pennel) is better and cheaper. Tag and trade
That’s my guess. Tag and trade Jones. You can’t pay him and you may as well get something for him.
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