How to play this off-season with free agency?

[Walt White]

I don't know the cap space that well so people smarter will have to tell me what we can do. I'm just excited to see how good this team can get. All the building blocks are in place. It's a matter of how we can supplement the pieces. And I know retain the big pieces is most important.

So assuming we can keep Chris Jones and give Pat an extension, will we have any room at all in the cap to make impact additions? Keeping Sammy looks unlikely. Not sure how many of our corners we can keep?

Even if we play it perfect, will there be any cap left to add some vet free agents? It seems like a pretty strong offensive line class in free agency if we could add one or two. Or if we could add an LB (although Hitchens make a lot). Or a vet corner? Trade possibilities?

I'm just trying to get a realistic grid of what potential moves we can make. I know hitting on picks in the draft will be the biggest way to improve. But if we can get some discounted vets or something, that could go a long way into having freedom in drafting more luxury picks.

[RunKC]

Chris Jones situation is indeed stressful guys, but I’m choosing to not stress it.
After last off-season, I have complete faith in Brett Veach and Spags. 100%.

Assuming that we do trade Jones, I think the plan would be for more volume. Get Ogbah back and have Clark, Okafor, Tanoh, Ogbah, Speaks as a possible redemption ala Tanoh 2.0 and likely another addition there.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by Mecca

While I think that sounds great in theory, this team is likely going to go into the offseason/draft needing 2 CB's a OLB that plays and a WR, so it's not going to be easy to fill all these spots and do it cheaply.

If you trade Jones for a 1st and a 5th (or something like that), I think we’ll have ample opportunity to hit our needs.

We might also be smart to trade down with one (or both) first round picks to get more picks.

With the way we drafted last year, I have total faith in Veach/Reid to find parts throughout the draft. It’s supposed to be a very strong year for CB and WR.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

If you trade Jones for a 1st and a 5th (or something like that), I think we’ll have ample opportunity to hit our needs.

We might also be smart to trade down with one (or both) first round picks to get more picks.

With the way we drafted last year, I have total faith in Veach/Reid to find parts throughout the draft. It’s supposed to be a very strong year for CB and WR.

It's just not a super easy thing to do as young players generally take time, do you think Hardman is ready to start?

I think there's also a very good chance that this was the last season Mahomes has a veteran backup also.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Is it true that Jones has 0 postseason sacks? And he wants 20 mil?

If he won't take a reasonable deal, tell him to get f***ed. No selfish overpaid schmucks are going to derail this train.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

Is it true that Jones has 0 postseason sacks? And he wants 20 mil?

If he won't take a reasonable deal, tell him to get f***ed. No selfish overpaid schmucks are going to derail this train.

When he knows he can get 20+ mill a year on the market why should he ask for less?

If someone offered you that kinda money to do what you do, you'd leave your current job. It's a business, especially for Jones who hasn't gotten paid yet.

[wachashi]

At this point in the season, it's in both KC's and Chris Jones' interests to say that he will be back next season. Happens all the time in this league to try and extract maximum value on a trade offer. I wouldn't put much stock at all into what Veach says about Jones right now. Nor would I put much stock at all into what Jones says about wanting to stay here. Cash rules everything and this is a business.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by Mecca

It's just not a super easy thing to do as young players generally take time, do you think Hardman is ready to start?

I think there's also a very good chance that this was the last season Mahomes has a veteran backup also.

Hardman is going to have to be ready. Hopefully he spends the offseason working with Tyreek.

If his year 1 to year 2 improvement is anything even close to Tyreek’s, then yes he’ll be ready.

[Mecca]

Just be rational about it...Chris Jones and Sammy Watkins aren't coming back, if we were looking at another team we'd be saying that.

[VAGOMO 4 LIFE!]

Sacks don’t really matter in the post season. Jones single handedly won that game for us with 4 batted ��

[Hoover]

I think Hardman is ready to play. I saw nothing that would suggest otherwise. That said, I'd also probably draft another WR in a deep draft like this, and I'd be looking to find a 1 year veteran rental. Got to think KC would be an attractive spot for a vet looking to put up big numbers in hopes to chase in afterwards. There are plenty of guys I think could pair well with Hill and Hardman, guys like Robby Anderson and Breshad Perriman could be poor mans Watkins. Or there are guys like Cobb or Sanders, who have played with guys like Rodgers and Manning who know how great it is to play with a QB like Mahomes.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Just be rational about it...Chris Jones and Sammy Watkins aren't coming back, if we were looking at another team we'd be saying that.

Trade both. Watkins could have value to a team with major WR needs like the Eagles. He’s better than anyone they could reasonably hope to find in the second round. They can then negotiate a paycut/extension.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by Mecca

When he knows he can get 20+ mill a year on the market why should he ask for less?

If someone offered you that kinda money to do what you do, you'd leave your current job. It's a business, especially for Jones who hasn't gotten paid yet.

No, I wouldn't take more money to go to a less rewarding situation (assuming I already had more than enough).

And I know I'd be in the minority among these greedy bastards, but I'd definitely be the type to take a big hometown discount to stay with Reid/Mahomes and build a dynasty.

The d-bags need to realize that they're already far wealthier than they have any right to be.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

No, I wouldn't take more money to go to a less rewarding situation.

And I know I'd be in the minority among these greedy bastards, but I'd definitely be the type to take a big hometown discount to stay with Reid/Mahomes and build a dynasty.

The d-bags need to realize that they're already far wealthier than they have any right to be.

If you thought you had a chance to get paid 1 time, you'd take the most you could get. It just blows my mind that anyone thinks these guys should take less than their market value.

If you think that's the case then teams that win should never lose FAs.

[St. Patty's Fire]

If we trade Jones we damn well better be looking at pass rush with the pick we get for him.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

No, I wouldn't take more money to go to a less rewarding situation (assuming I already had more than enough).

And I know I'd be in the minority among these greedy bastards, but I'd definitely be the type to take a big hometown discount to stay with Reid/Mahomes and build a dynasty.

The d-bags need to realize that they're already far wealthier than they have any right to be.

You’re right, but that doesn’t mean Jones agrees. If he won’t give us a discount, then he needs to be traded.

We can’t have another big contract like that right now. I love the player, but we do have limitations.