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Old 02-06-2020, 09:45 PM  
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How to play this off-season with free agency?

I don't know the cap space that well so people smarter will have to tell me what we can do. I'm just excited to see how good this team can get. All the building blocks are in place. It's a matter of how we can supplement the pieces. And I know retain the big pieces is most important.

So assuming we can keep Chris Jones and give Pat an extension, will we have any room at all in the cap to make impact additions? Keeping Sammy looks unlikely. Not sure how many of our corners we can keep?

Even if we play it perfect, will there be any cap left to add some vet free agents? It seems like a pretty strong offensive line class in free agency if we could add one or two. Or if we could add an LB (although Hitchens make a lot). Or a vet corner? Trade possibilities?

I'm just trying to get a realistic grid of what potential moves we can make. I know hitting on picks in the draft will be the biggest way to improve. But if we can get some discounted vets or something, that could go a long way into having freedom in drafting more luxury picks.
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Old 02-07-2020, 12:47 PM   #136
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Old 02-07-2020, 12:48 PM   #137
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Do we even re sign Pat knowing what he wants?? We’re not gonna have a team. We’re gonna have vet min signings at near every single position


Yep, we should cut this over-paid bum.
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Old 02-07-2020, 12:48 PM   #138
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If you make the moves I suggested you can get up to nearly 40 mill of space, If you give Mahomes a 20 mill base in year 1 then you still have money to work with and you'll get some more money back that next year.
Yea I would give him a low first year cap hit as the cap number will go up and up each year but what if Pats agent is playing hardball and will want a percentage of the cap each year instead of a set amount?
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Old 02-07-2020, 12:48 PM   #139
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We aren't screwed at all, we'll be a consistent contender but we do have to make good money decisions and good draft picks or we'll be the Packers.
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Old 02-07-2020, 12:49 PM   #140
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Look at our cap numbers for next year, we have several huge ones, you throw in a new Mahomes contract unless there are multiple cuts we won't even be able to fill out a 53.



That also doesn't even show Mathieu's number which ramps up.
Mahomes cap hit isn’t going to be $40 million next year. It’s an extension, so his rookie deal with help factor it in. Goff’s first year cap hit was $10 million. Wentz has an $8 million first year hit.

Dan is here 1 more year at a fairly low price tag. I don’t think it will be a problem.
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Old 02-07-2020, 12:50 PM   #141
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Old 02-07-2020, 12:51 PM   #142
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Do we even re sign Pat knowing what he wants?? We’re not gonna have a team. We’re gonna have vet min signings at near every single position
God damn....you really are a ****ing moron.
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Old 02-07-2020, 12:51 PM   #143
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7 Million in Dead Cap money- plus losing our 2nd best WR. That was my point. I am not advocating keeping him at 21 million.

Sammy has all the leverage. I am not sure any team will trade for him with that kind of salary due.
Im not sure its smart to extend Sammy either.

Look, I get that we won a Super Bowl with these guys but the smart move is stay young through the draft. You can't be paying Sammy, Sorenson, and Jones huge money. Good teams always have to make difficult choices.
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Do we even re sign Pat knowing what he wants?? We’re not gonna have a team. We’re gonna have vet min signings at near every single position
You being perma-banned is LITERALLY the only thing standing between us and a perfect 2020.

Please do something bannable.
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If we are trading Chris Jones, I am pressing for a 1st and 3rd. No matter what we get back, I’d like to trade down with one of those first rd picks to get a 3rd.

If we can get 5 top 100 picks, that would be ideal.
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Some real doozies in this thread.
Cut Fisher, yeah right that is pretty damn stupid, we seen what his backup can do and it was horrible and you cannot replace him witih the 32cd pick. Pennel is better than Jones is just as damn stupid. Restructure Clark after the first year of his mega deal is a bad idea as well. There are many many more in this thread.
Where have some of you heard that Steinberg is going to "force" Mahomes to set out without a new contract? Like an agent can force that to begin with. All of the analysts that cover the Chiefs have been saying for a while now that the Chiefs and Mahomes are looking to get this new contract extension done in the next 12 to 15 months.
How can some of you say that Jones is worth, which means will bring us, more than a single first round pick this year when you have seen what Dee Ford and Frank Clark got in return.
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Some real doozies in this thread.
Cut Fisher, yeah right that is pretty damn stupid, we seen what his backup can do and it was horrible and you cannot replace him witih the 32cd pick. Pennel is better than Jones is just as damn stupid. Restructure Clark after the first year of his mega deal is a bad idea as well. There are many many more in this thread.
Where have some of you heard that Steinberg is going to "force" Mahomes to set out without a new contract? Like an agent can force that to begin with. All of the analysts that cover the Chiefs have been saying for a while now that the Chiefs and Mahomes are looking to get this new contract extension done in the next 12 to 15 months.
How can some of you say that Jones is worth, which means will bring us, more than a single first round pick this year when you have seen what Dee Ford and Frank Clark got in return.
Maybe because Chris Jones is 5 times the player that Dee Ford is?
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Do we even re sign Pat knowing what he wants?? We’re not gonna have a team. We’re gonna have vet min signings at near every single position
GOOD POINT! I mean what’s the guy even done to deserve a huge contract?

Besides winning MVP, getting us to consecutive AFCCG, winning the Super Bowl, winning Super Bowl MVP, being the best player in the league at the most important position, and only being 24.

Besides those things, HE HASNT DONE SHIT!
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Ultimately the goal will be to get mahomes paid but also get him to a friendlier team deal. I think he will be motivated to do both. The great thing about our salary cap is veach really front loaded our cap the next 2-3 years. Which with the new cba now looks very cap friendly. We should be good for a few years. Where it gets really interesting is when contracts like Mathieu and Wilson and okafor etc. start to expire. They'll all come at once.

So what do we do with Mahomes contract? I'm thinking we frontload the hell out of it. I have a feeling mahomes will eventually want to Brady his deal and flex his salary to help get players they need. But before he does that why not overpay him the first few years? Mega signing bonus that will virtually guarantee his contract long term. Huge base salaries early on. Then lower the base salary in later years with an additional signing bonus trigger in year 3 or 4.
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Maybe because Chris Jones is 5 times the player that Dee Ford is?
No argument from me on that. Most teams don't want to give up multiple picks and $100M contract for a DT.
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