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Old 02-27-2020, 10:28 AM  
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Old 02-27-2020, 04:05 PM   #76
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Yeah. And why can’t we expect Veach to keep getting these good players on rookie contracts?

Buttkicker, Ward, Ragland, Erving, Ogbah, Rankin, Nnandi, Hardman, Thornhill, Saunders.

It’s like people don’t believe in Veach even though he’s proven it
But look at the Seahawks!!!
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Old 02-27-2020, 04:38 PM   #77
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I'm sorry but I can't see any way how being tagged by a team is some sign of disrespect. They are doing nothing more than protecting their investment.
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Old 02-27-2020, 04:51 PM   #78
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Yeah. And why can’t we expect Veach to keep getting these good players on rookie contracts?

Buttkicker, Ward, Ragland, Erving, Ogbah, Rankin, Nnandi, Hardman, Thornhill, Saunders.

It’s like people don’t believe in Veach even though he’s proven it
I'm not knocking Veach at all, but you padded that list with some Meh like Ragland and Erving. And Rankin is mostly an unknown at this point.

But I still think Veach has done a good job, just sayin'
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Old 02-27-2020, 04:54 PM   #79
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Terez says on his podcast that Jones will be here long term. There just waiting for the new CBA to get a long term deal done. Same approach with Watkins
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Old 02-27-2020, 05:01 PM   #80
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My sources are telling me that Pat's going to sign for $36M a year, but its mostly going to be guaranteed. Dak should have taken 33 when it was offered.
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Old 02-27-2020, 05:02 PM   #81
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My sources are telling me that Pat's going to sign for $36M a year, but its mostly going to be guaranteed. Dak should have taken 33 when it was offered.
Watch Mahomes **** up the whole QB market 😂. All the other QBs are gonna hate him
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Old 02-27-2020, 05:09 PM   #82
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It will be interesting if they tag Jones as exclusive (can’t negotiate with other teams) or non exclusive (other teams can negotiate with him then trade).

That’s a HUGE part of this equation nobody is talking about.

Unless I missed it (which is possible)
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Old 02-27-2020, 05:12 PM   #83
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It will be interesting if they tag Jones as exclusive (can’t negotiate with other teams) or non exclusive (other teams can negotiate with him then trade).

That’s a HUGE part of this equation nobody is talking about.

Unless I missed it (which is possible)
He’s not getting traded for ****s sake. Been reported by multiple people
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Old 02-27-2020, 05:16 PM   #84
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He’s not getting traded for ****s sake. Been reported by multiple people
The non exclusive tag is cheaper.

Right now, I don’t think KC has enough cap space to even tag Jones.
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Old 02-27-2020, 05:17 PM   #85
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a 1st and a 3rd and all that cap room would go a long way to re-stocking.

I'm not sold either way, and ideally you could keep all the guys you want to, but this ain't Madden Football.
This is our new reality until Mahomes retires. Its not about smoke and mirrors to get some cap room for this year. You can only fanangle so much. Mahomes $40 million a year ain't going away. Hard unpopular choices need to be made.
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Old 02-27-2020, 05:52 PM   #86
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When Jones was out down the stretch, our interior rush was nonexistent... it’s Krazy how many here are perfectly fine jettisoning a top 2 DT in the league as if guys like him are dime a dozen

“Tag and trade”

“Draft a guy and sign veteran slapdick X”

It’s nonsense, and Veach damn well knows it even if some you dont
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When Jones was out down the stretch, our interior rush was nonexistent... it’s Krazy how many here are perfectly fine jettisoning a top 2 DT in the league as if guys like him are dime a dozen

“Tag and trade”

“Draft a guy and sign veteran slapdick X”

It’s nonsense, and Veach damn well knows it even if some you dont
I don't think anyone is fine with it, but we do have a salary crunch. Do you think having 3 109 million+ players won't Bevan issue when it comes to building the team?
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My sources are telling me that Pat's going to sign for $36M a year, but its mostly going to be guaranteed. Dak should have taken 33 when it was offered.
Dak should have taken $13M.
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It's simplistic thinking, because people like PGM think that the ONLY option is keep jones. DO IT VEACH.

It's incredibly myopic.

You keep acting like I'm saying you HAVE to trade Jones. You don't have to trade him. You can sign him to a massive contract. It's going to **** you in other ways. People act like signing Jones doesn't create huge problems. It does. But all they want to do is point out that trading him removes his talent from the team. Yes... I get that. It also injects talent at multiple other positions.

Keeping Jones is totally on the table. It can be done, but it WILL mean cutting other places. Most likely Watkins, LDT, and then letting Breeland and Fuller both walk. There are so many holes on this team to fill, and being maxed out cap-wise with another Jones contract will make it all the harder to fill.

I absolutely love the reverse logic that Veach can't POSSIBLY replace Jones with multiple high picks and cap space, but he ABSOLUTELY can replace Breeland, Fuller, Watkins, and LDT with no cap room and day three picks. It makes no sense.

Also, I'm not angry at you for wanting to keep Jones. You keep getting angry at me for pointing out the problems that creates and positing an alternative trade scenario.

So, yes... you're being emotional. I am not.
You sound upset. How about you try not to let your emotions run away with you?
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