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Old 04-05-2021, 09:51 AM  
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So wouldn't this say the Chiefs haven't drafted very well recently?
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Old 04-05-2021, 11:24 AM   #16
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I've mostly given up on Hardman being anything but a third receiver. He doesn't seem to get the offense, struggles to mentally connect with Jesus, and gives up on plays. He's a miss as a second round pick.

But Thornhill got hurt. Before that, he was on a star trajectory. With more time to heal, I think we will begin to see the best of him next season.
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Old 04-05-2021, 11:34 AM   #17
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It was a weak draft overall after the first round.
The draft might not have been deep, but we swung and missed on nearly everyone of them. Especially trading up and taking Breeland Speaks; that was brutal.
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Old 04-05-2021, 11:38 AM   #18
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The graph seems to suggest that we have quality depth that allows our rookies time to develop rather needing them to be day 1 contributors.....
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That 2018 draft was absolutely killer and not in a good way
I think both of these are true.

Oddly enough, I thought our rookies gave us a huge boost in 2020 and played a ton of snaps.
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Old 04-05-2021, 11:42 AM   #19
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CEH has been Veach's only first-round pick. I would say that makes a big difference.
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Old 04-05-2021, 12:03 PM   #20
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I dunno, when I look at the teams in the UL it appears to be good teams who don't have alot of open snaps for young players.
This all day.

Burt's draftees would have more snaps if the team wasn't loaded.

Also Mahomes redshirted in 2017.
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Old 04-05-2021, 12:06 PM   #21
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Old 04-05-2021, 12:08 PM   #22
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Top Half - playoff teams
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Well, yeah, that axis is wins.
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Old 04-05-2021, 12:13 PM   #23
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Well, yeah, that axis is wins.
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Old 04-05-2021, 12:15 PM   #24
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We're nailing our early round picks but day 3 of the draft hasn't been kind to us.
We literally just got a top 15 talent in the 4th last year...
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Old 04-05-2021, 12:24 PM   #25
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We literally just got a top 15 talent in the 4th last year...
Fenton and Allegretti were 6th round picks the previous year as well. Not stars, but great value where they were picked.
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Old 04-05-2021, 12:37 PM   #26
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I wouldn't place much stock in that graph, but we do need to draft (or develop) a bit better moving forward. We haven't drafted an elite guy since 2017. It appears Sneed has that potential, but it's too early to tell.

We'll need the next wave of Chris Jones, Tyreek Hills and Patrick Mahomes if we want to keep this thing running.
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I wouldn't place much stock in that graph, but we do need to draft (or develop) a bit better moving forward. We haven't drafted an elite guy since 2017. It appears Sneed has that potential, but it's too early to tell.

We'll need the next wave of Chris Jones, Tyreek Hills and Patrick Mahomes if we want to keep this thing running.
While true, we need to look at where the Chiefs are drafting. To get elite guys at those positions, they're probably gonna have to take some time to develop.

So you've got guys like Thornhill and Sneed and (insert player) that could just take time to develop to that elite level.

The day one elite players just aren't gonna be something that happens very often considering the Chiefs draft spots.
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The draft might not have been deep, but we swung and missed on nearly everyone of them. Especially trading up and taking Breeland Speaks; that was brutal.
I never understood the Speaks pick. I kinda get picking Kpass because of his enormous physical potential. Speaks, though, always looked slow and pudgy. He didn't look the part and he certainly didn't play the part.

Veach traded up three times in the 2018 draft and each was pretty bad.

We traded picks 54 and 78 to the Bengals for picks 46 (Speaks) 100 (DOD). The Bengals turned pick 54 into Jessie Bates who is a real good young safety.

We traded picks 86 and 122 to Baltimore to get Derrick Nnadi at pick 75. Nnadi wasn't a bad pick - he's a good run-stuffing lineman. Baltimore, though, used the picks on Mark Andrews and Kenny Young. Andrews is a stud and Young is a decent LB who now plays for the Rams.

We traded picks 233 and 243 to the Pats for pick 198 to get Kahlil McKenzie. Pick 233 was traded to the Eagles and they used it to pick Jordan Mailata. I know the Eagles really like Mailata and I've heard he may be the Eagles LT of the future.

Hindsight is 20/20 and no team makes the right choices with each pick. His 2019 draft was better and 2020 has the potential to be an excellent class.
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I never understood the Speaks pick. I kinda get picking Kpass because of his enormous physical potential. Speaks, though, always looked slow and pudgy. He didn't look the part and he certainly didn't play the part.
We are still paying for Breeland Speaks. Chiefs still have $629,184 of dead money on their books for him.

Hopefully we learned from that draft.
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