Chiefs Who do you MOST blame for the team's issues? - Page 11

**DaFace** · 10-11-2021, 09:23 AM

Do we need another thread to gripe about last night? Of course we do! So here's one more.

Pick an option or add your own.

**The Franchise** · 10-11-2021, 04:01 PM

The Lions ****ing suck and have Jamaal Williams. Offer them something for Swift. And then when CEH is healthy….call up the Bengals and see what they want to get him back with Burrow.

**Easy 6** · 10-11-2021, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

The Lions ****ing suck and have Jamaal Williams. Offer them something for Swift. And then when CEH is healthy….call up the Bengals and see what they want to get him back with Burrow.

scho63 · 10-11-2021, 04:14 PM

29, 36, 30, 30, 38

That's points allowed from our ****ing pathetic offensive defense

ljmhawk · 10-11-2021, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63

29, 36, 30, 30, 38

That's points allowed from our ****ing pathetic offensive defense

can’t blame a pick 6 and blocked punt on the defense

Sassy Squatch · 10-11-2021, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63

29, 36, 30, 30, 38

That's points allowed from our ****ing pathetic offensive defense

STILL blaming the defense for the pick six? It's okay, the point is easily provable that they're an all time historically bad unit, we don't need to fudge the numbers.

KChiefs1 · 10-11-2021, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

They scored 38 points on us.

In fact...every team has scored 30 on us this season except Cleveland, who could "only' muster 29.

So, it's the defense. Specifically, the front four is getting butt****ed on almost every down.

EVERYONE knows we have a shitty defense so the offense has to be super efficient to compensate & they haven’t been with turnovers, penalties & poor execution.

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KChiefs1 · 10-11-2021, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg

CEH is a bad pick. RB is always a bad pick in round 1.

What a waste of a first rounder.

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burt · 10-11-2021, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

With so many problems, Andy and the coaching staff need to be looked at as the primary issue.

Opposing teams/coaches have been actively developing schemes and acquiring personnel to beat the Chiefs and Andy and his coaching staff have not being able to adjust or respond at this point.

This is especially true on offense with the inability to effectively counter the Cover 2 looks designed to make the Chiefs drive the field rather than giving up big plays.

Mahomes also deserves some of the blame with the offense's struggles against the two deep safety defenses because he's giving up on plays too quickly and reverting to backyard ball which messes up the timing of the intermediate passing game.

My take for what it's worth.

1)Mahomes is off kilter. Several times he has flat out missed the pass to open receivers this season. Combine that with turn overs, disaster.

2) Defense flat out sucks. But I agree, last year, though, we'd just outscore them, this ain't last year.

3) The coaches are still ultimately to blame. THEY need to find out what is wrong with Mahomes. Find out what plays work in the 2 deep safety defenses. Figure out our defense.

Andy is a great coach, Beinemy is a great coach. I trust them...they gotta fix it.

KC_Connection · 10-11-2021, 04:34 PM

Mahomes leads the league in QBR this season. If there's something wrong with him, what the hell does that make the other QBs in the NFL?

**Rain Man** · 10-11-2021, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Yea when you look at his comment about the longer drives and more plays there are more chances for error., its exactly what's happening.

1st INT, off the hands of Hill, never should have happened.

2ND INT- Niang doesn't hold his block well enough and the DE makes an just incredible play to knock the ball up and catch it. Very very rare play.

Then you have Hill dropping a pass on 3rd down that him in the facemask and Mahomes missing Kelce on a TD. Its just errors compounded by the limited number of drives the defense is giving them on top of the pressure mounting because the defense keeps giving up TD's.

Big old snowball.

And let's not forget fumbling a kickoff return.

**Shiver Me Timbers** · 10-11-2021, 04:50 PM

The D needs to find some direction- That is on the coach. In Spags "semi defense"- He has a dozen and half "professionals" who really suck ass.
Frank Clark needs to.......... you can fill that in
The Offense seems like they are a 500 team just waiting for the season to end
Andy/EB game prep is way off and the play calling is pitiful.
Give the ball away 2 or three times a game- big problem
The Chiefs have a target on their backs every game. They are not playing at a level to even come close to meeting the challenge.

MahomesMagic · 10-11-2021, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Mahomes leads the league in QBR this season. If there's something wrong with him, what the hell does that make the other QBs in the NFL?

I blame Andy for last night's offensive performance.

Buffalo middle of the field was wide open past the RPO passing points and he didn't get our guys in there.

DRM08 · 10-11-2021, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Mahomes leads the league in QBR this season. If there's something wrong with him, what the hell does that make the other QBs in the NFL?

I would say it’s evidence that the QBR stat is flawed. He has looked pretty shaky overall this year. Guess we will see if he can get into a better groove over the coming weeks.

burt · 10-11-2021, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Mahomes leads the league in QBR this season. If there's something wrong with him, what the hell does that make the other QBs in the NFL?

QBR matters to OTHER QB's. Yes, he leads QBR. No, he isn't playing as well as last year. He is missing his targets. He is a generational talent so great that he can play poorly FOR HIM and still be amazing in comparison.

**Baby Lee** · 10-11-2021, 04:54 PM

It's not a who, it's a what.

Football is an intricate team game with small battles all over the place that are overshadowed by QB performance. Given our history, we were in this philosophical space that a franchise QB would solve every problem forever.

Well we got the best QB in history, and promptly decided that it was OK to suck everywhere else. Not that they're trying to suck, but . . . if they mess up even atrociously 'every once in a while' it would be OK because Mahomes will come storming in and fix everything.

It's intoxicating when it works, that feeling of invincibility even when you are a 98lb weakling because your big brother will kick all the bullies asses eventually.

But the opposition stays hungry, and they gameplan, and they figure out weaknesses. . . and eventually when your ONLY fortification against sucking across the board is one player, they figure out how to neutralize that one aspect and maximize their advantage in all other aspects.

The dominance of the Patriots wasn't because of Brady. It was knowing they had Brady and KEEPING THEIR FOOT ON THE ACCELERATOR in every picayune and trifling aspect of the game. Teaching WRs to be pro bowl CBs, top 5 defenses year after year, clutch kickers, etc.

View Poll Results: Who do you MOST blame for the team's issues? (pick up to three)
Mahomes has regressed	21	12.35%
Our RBs are JAGs	26	15.29%
The OTs aren't holding up	8	4.71%
We have no WR2	28	16.47%
Hill can't get open against Cover 2	7	4.12%
Andy has lost his touch	21	12.35%
EB sucks at calling plays	19	11.18%
The DL just plain sucks	76	44.71%
Chris Jones should never have been moved to DE	36	21.18%
Frank Clark's salary is weighing us down	32	18.82%
We have no legit CBs	15	8.82%
Our LBs can't stop anything.	66	38.82%
Daniel Sorensen. Enough said.	61	35.88%
They refuse to play Thornhill	17	10.00%
Teams have solved Spags' defense	35	20.59%
Veach sucks	12	7.06%
Create your own adventure! (add in the thread)	13	7.65%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 170. You may not vote on this poll

10-11-2021, 09:23 AM
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scho63 Politically Incorrect Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Casino cash: $-740000	29, 36, 30, 30, 38 That's points allowed from our **ing pathetic offensive defense __________________ "The only difference between sex for free and sex for money is that sex for free costs you a WHOLE LOT more!" ~Redd Foxx~** ~~2018 2019 2020 20212022 2023~~ 2024 Adopt a Chief - Clark Hunt and Brett Veach "The men who drafted Patrick Mahomes"
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Shiver Me Timbers Elway be drinkin' again Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Colorado USA Casino cash: $5445000	The D needs to find some direction- That is on the coach. In Spags "semi defense"- He has a dozen and half "professionals" who really suck ass. Frank Clark needs to.......... you can fill that in The Offense seems like they are a 500 team just waiting for the season to end Andy/EB game prep is way off and the play calling is pitiful. Give the ball away 2 or three times a game- big problem The Chiefs have a target on their backs every game. They are not playing at a level to even come close to meeting the challenge.
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10-11-2021, 04:54 PM	#165
Baby Lee Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $8028275	It's not a who, it's a what. Football is an intricate team game with small battles all over the place that are overshadowed by QB performance. Given our history, we were in this philosophical space that a franchise QB would solve every problem forever. Well we got the best QB in history, and promptly decided that it was OK to suck everywhere else. Not that they're trying to suck, but . . . if they mess up even atrociously 'every once in a while' it would be OK because Mahomes will come storming in and fix everything. It's intoxicating when it works, that feeling of invincibility even when you are a 98lb weakling because your big brother will kick all the bullies asses eventually. But the opposition stays hungry, and they gameplan, and they figure out weaknesses. . . and eventually when your ONLY fortification against sucking across the board is one player, they figure out how to neutralize that one aspect and maximize their advantage in all other aspects. The dominance of the Patriots wasn't because of Brady. It was knowing they had Brady and KEEPING THEIR FOOT ON THE ACCELERATOR in every picayune and trifling aspect of the game. Teaching WRs to be pro bowl CBs, top 5 defenses year after year, clutch kickers, etc. __________________ We need the kind of courage that can withstand the subtle corruption of the cynics - E.W.
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