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Old 02-21-2022, 06:35 PM  
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Who's the ONE guy that you just want in this draft?
Not like in the first round necessarily, just like...the guy you want.

For me, It's Rachaad White. The more I watch, the more I just think this kid is a perfect fit for KC, and could be had with our Poole pick most likely.
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Old 02-22-2022, 12:45 PM   #61
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I think he actually has a solid shot.

His pass rush simply isn’t there yet, and I’m not convinced that teams are going to take him that high with guys like Johnson, Ojabo, and Karlaftis also likely ahead of him.
No question - he needs coached up.

If he didn’t he’d be on the list for possible top 5 picks.

He just has physical tools that you don’t find past the middle of the first round. He’s a gamble, but could pay off in a BIG way.
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Old 02-22-2022, 12:53 PM   #62
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I guess I should have read through the thread.
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Old 02-22-2022, 02:13 PM   #63
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I’m just referring to taking a guy that has a serious injury and allowing them to basically RS.

Simmons plays a more premium position as an interior pass rusher, so of course he wasn’t falling out of the top 20.

I think it’s a bit different with Williams considering the position he plays and the depth at that position in the draft.

I agree that he likely doesn’t make it to 30 if he checks out medically, but if he makes it to 30 and the Chiefs take him, I’m not going to complain.
I’m not sure why some folks think he’s going to redshirt. He has 7.5 months until opening day and he’s apparently ahead of schedule:



Modern medicine is helping players come back faster. Look at Packers WR Amari Rodgers. At Clemson the guy tore his ACL in March and came back to play in week 3. He came back and was effective in 6 months.
Cam Akers ruptured his Achilles, which is a worse injury. Came back and looked good after a little over 5 months.

This guy for his ACL in January. I bet he’ll be ready for a team mid season. Maybe earlier with a 6 week PUP designation to start the season.
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It’s certainly possible, I’m just talking about the most likely scenario
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I’m not sure why some folks think he’s going to redshirt. He has 7.5 months until opening day and he’s apparently ahead of schedule:



Modern medicine is helping players come back faster. Look at Packers WR Amari Rodgers. At Clemson the guy tore his ACL in March and came back to play in week 3. He came back and was effective in 6 months.
Cam Akers ruptured his Achilles, which is a worse injury. Came back and looked good after a little over 5 months.

This guy for his ACL in January. I bet he’ll be ready for a team mid season. Maybe earlier with a 6 week PUP designation to start the season.
He's going to miss the entire offseason program. He won't be ready for THIS team until 2023. We know what kind of battle healthy rookie WR's have to get integrated into this offense. Add in the injury and there's no way the guy contributes next year. Maybe for some other team that isn't so averse to rookies but not HERE.
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If he just falls out of the 20, I think there’s a very good chance that we trade up.
Draft value chart says we could trade our early 3rd (and 1st) to say Arizona at 23 or Dallas at 24 if The team liked him.
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He's going to miss the entire offseason program. He won't be ready for THIS team until 2023. We know what kind of battle healthy rookie WR's have to get integrated into this offense. Add in the injury and there's no way the guy contributes next year. Maybe for some other team that isn't so averse to rookies but not HERE.
Hill and Hardman both came in and had 500 yards as rookies with far less polish than Williams coming out.

Like those guys, he can make an impact because of his speed alone.
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Hill and Hardman both came in and had 500 yards as rookies with far less polish than Williams coming out.

Like those guys, he can make an impact because of his speed alone.
Neither of them missed the entire offseason before their rookie season. I'm sure you are right but no amount of explaining is going to make it sounds like a good deal to me. Probably just agree to disagree.
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I’d be fine with that bc he is actually a really smart guy per reports. He can still participate in camp just not anything involving hits. To me it’s all between the ears. He knows how to play.

And honestly we don’t need him to be Superman. We still have Tyreek and Kelce. Even a guy like that starting out is dangerous as a #3 option. The problem we had is that Robinson and Pringle just can’t get open. They don’t have the necessary talent.

This guys talent alone would be so good as a #3 receiving option as a rookie
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Old 02-22-2022, 10:00 PM   #70
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If we move up for J Williams I'll be super excited, even more so if he falls to us, but I agree with others that there are so many healthy options in FA and the draft that if he's not ready to go I'd be surprised if we do take him.

Can we start a persistent rumor that his injury is progressing horribly so he falls to us? Does anyone here know how to use twitter bots to spread disinformation lol?
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At the moment? Jerome Ford (5'11" 220lbs 4.4 speed) looks like fun:

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At the moment? Jerome Ford (5'11" 220lbs 4.4 speed) looks like fun:

That’s my dude.
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At the moment? Jerome Ford (5'11" 220lbs 4.4 speed) looks like fun:

Okay…okay…you got my attention.
I saw in a couple of different prospect ranking articles where he was in the 10-15 top RB range.
That would probably put him in the 3rd or 4th round.
Thoughts?
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Yeah, you've been on this guy for a bit.

I'm a fan in the middle rounds. Sure seems like the most pure explosion we'll be able to get for the investment. There may be some faster guys in the draft (and there may not be) but those would cost more than he's likely to require.

Then again, if Ford goes out there and runs in the 4.3s at the combine, you could see him sneaking into the 2nd pretty easily and I'm just not excited about that.

And am I the only one that sees a WR playing RB there? Build and running style just doesn't seem like a RB.
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Yeah, you've been on this guy for a bit.

I'm a fan in the middle rounds. Sure seems like the most pure explosion we'll be able to get for the investment. There may be some faster guys in the draft (and there may not be) but those would cost more than he's likely to require.

Then again, if Ford goes out there and runs in the 4.3s at the combine, you could see him sneaking into the 2nd pretty easily and I'm just not excited about that.

And am I the only one that sees a WR playing RB there? Build and running style just doesn't seem like a RB.
I like Ford in the 3rd with our comp pick but there’s no way I’m spending a 2nd on him….and I like him.

Hell…I’m not even 100% sold on drafting a RB this year.
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