Chiefs Chris Jones - Page 9

Pitt Gorilla · 10-10-2022, 09:57 PM

has possession of the football. How is it theoretically POSSIBLE for there to be "roughing the passer" called on Jones AFTER he has possession?!? I mean, it's literally not POSSIBLE, right?

Megatron96 · 10-11-2022, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

We are talking about a blind hit on a QB here. The rule is there to protect a defenseless passer. So your entire argument goes up in flames right here.

Uh, wasn't Carr actually running away from CJ? As in he knew damned well that he was about to be sacked/tackled, which would explain why he was RUNNING AWAY? Then, and again try to keep up, CJ knocked the ball out of his hands right before he makes bodily contact with Carr, right? So no ball, which means Carr can't possibly be a passer anymore right? Can't throw a ball if you don't actually have one to throw, right?

Ack, I'm done with this; it's like talking to a baboon's ass. On to the Bills.

jd1020 · 10-11-2022, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96

Uh, wasn't Carr actually running away from CJ? As in he knew damned well that he was about to be sacked/tackled, which would explain why he was RUNNING AWAY? Then, and again try to keep up, CJ knocked the ball out of his hands right before he makes bodily contact with Carr, right? So no ball, which means Carr can't possibly be a passer anymore right? Can't throw a ball if you don't actually have one to throw, right?

Suggest you get your eyes checked.

If you think Carr was running then you are the only person on earth who thinks that, just like Cheffer is the only person on earth who thinks it was roughing.

Don't think I can take your lessons on tackling any more if thats your definition of running.

Fansy the Famous Bard · 10-11-2022, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Exactly, and how about later in the game when he was practically tackled to prevent him from getting to Carr that would have ended the drive.

Very sorry about the thumbs down, my clutz finger missed the up

At this point, im kinda thankful that "hold" kept another roughing the passer penalty from being called.

**penguinz** · 10-11-2022, 12:13 PM

On a potential game changing play the ref needs to be 100% confident he is 100% correct on the call.

The only person involved in that game that came to conclusion that was a roughing penalty was the referee.

PurpleJesus28 · 10-11-2022, 03:58 PM

Does anyone remember that Chiefs at Pats game a few years back.I can't remember which Chiefs player it was,maybe a linebacker.He let up on sacking or tackling Brady,cause he thought he was already down or something and i think they scored on that play.For some reason i just remembered that.

Megatron96 · 10-11-2022, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PurpleJesus28

Does anyone remember that Chiefs at Pats game a few years back.I can't remember which Chiefs player it was,maybe a linebacker.He let up on sacking or tackling Brady,cause he thought he was already down or something and i think they scored on that play.For some reason i just remembered that.

Speaks. Grabbed Brady then let him go because he was afraid to get flagged.

This whole thing smacks of a few years ago when the NFL decided to crack down on roughing the QB, and Clay Matthews got flagged like 4 weeks in a row. A couple of those sacks looked very similar to what CJ did last night.

Hopefully the refs will calm the hell down like they did before and this particular issue will go away again.

Otherwise, if they keep this nonsense up, it may work in our favor ultimately. I mean, if you can't actually touch the QB, what's the point in drafting or paying for premier pass rushers?

Megatron96 · 10-11-2022, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Suggest you get your eyes checked.

If you think Carr was running then you are the only person on earth who thinks that, just like Cheffer is the only person on earth who thinks it was roughing.

Don't think I can take your lessons on tackling any more if thats your definition of running.

Lol, even your QB didn't think it was roughing:
https://twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV/st...80167299252227

jd1020 · 10-11-2022, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96

Lol, even your QB didn't think it was roughing:
https://twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV/st...80167299252227

Do you have a point? No one thinks it was roughing. That still doesn't excuse your sorry ass explanation for how it went down with your reeruned arrogance.

Now pay attention here because it's important. If you think Carr was running in an attempt to avoid being hit you are a ****ing moron.

Marcellus · 10-11-2022, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by penguinz

On a potential game changing play the ref needs to be 100% confident he is 100% correct on the call.

The only person involved in that game that came to conclusion that was a roughing penalty was the referee.

Thing is this play wasn’t close to being a penalty. I know the rule subjective but it shouldn’t be that hard.

Roughing the passer is like porn, no need to define it, you know it when you see it.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-11-2022, 06:11 PM

florio and simms had a great segment. Hadn’t thought about all the ways this call was ****ed up.

Obviously the roughing call was bogus. Mostly because he braced himself to avoid full body force.
Play should have been reviewable to review the fumble. Neither the refs or NY did a review.
Even if it was roughing at worst it should have been chiefs ball, 1st and 25

**srvy** · 10-11-2022, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63

There is no reason to beat this dead horse.

EVERYONE IN THE WORLD EXCEPT CHEFFERS KNOW THIS WAS A COMPLETELY ****ED UP CALL. EVERYONE, THAT IS EVERYONE!

End of story.

You don't know CP well then. That horse is gonna be dead 1000 times over and still won't get to rest peacefully.

kccrow · 10-11-2022, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

The "rule" CLEARLY states that extending arms to "break the fall" is considered a legal play. They talked about it extensively during the broadcast.

They didn't FOLLOW THE RULE. That's the problem.

exactly. Cheffers is a joke.

**srvy** · 10-11-2022, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Sure, but what will the league do about it? Will they de-emphasize again only to emphasize again when someone gets a concussion? Or will they take jones’ very reasonable feedback to heart?

Will they create more clarity of the rules and change the severity of taunting rules so no game is transformed because of naughty words?

And while we’re at it can we get an official apology from the nfl and an explanation for why Chris jones is repeatedly targeted with these bullshit calls?

Knowing the NFL its gonna get scrambled even more. They can make it reviewable then it will go to NY to decide among lawyers what is best for the league. They will make the right cover our ass call.

htismaqe · 10-12-2022, 01:43 PM

Even offensive players know this situation is far from tenable...

Megatron96 · 10-12-2022, 01:50 PM

I forrget. Is Chris going to get fined as well for RTP? Because in the past that was part of it; a player that drew a RTP flag would also get fined.

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10-11-2022, 03:58 PM	#125
PurpleJesus28 Starter Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Out there,past them trees Casino cash: $5505040	Does anyone remember that Chiefs at Pats game a few years back.I can't remember which Chiefs player it was,maybe a linebacker.He let up on sacking or tackling Brady,cause he thought he was already down or something and i think they scored on that play.For some reason i just remembered that.
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10-11-2022, 06:11 PM	#130
chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $-1775503	florio and simms had a great segment. Hadn’t thought about all the ways this call was ****ed up. Obviously the roughing call was bogus. Mostly because he braced himself to avoid full body force. Play should have been reviewable to review the fumble. Neither the refs or NY did a review. Even if it was roughing at worst it should have been chiefs ball, 1st and 25
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htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $8099900	Even offensive players know this situation is far from tenable...
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10-12-2022, 01:50 PM	#135
Megatron96 Suupraa Geniuuusss Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: North Phoenix, AZ Casino cash: $-1969600	I forrget. Is Chris going to get fined as well for RTP? Because in the past that was part of it; a player that drew a RTP flag would also get fined. __________________ *“Some ideas are so stupid only intellectuals believe them.”*- George Orwell Steven "Spags" Spagnuolo is my Adopt-A-Chief!!!
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