Why the Chiefs face a new reality in the Patrick Mahomes Era after this loss to Bills

[LongSufferingToady]

Von Miller walked behind the lectern inside the tight quarters of a room reserved for a Bills news conference, less than half an hour after his team beat the Chiefs here at Arrowhead Stadium. He began with an opening statement, of sorts. “Howdy,” he said, and then he offered a grin. “I came in this stadium a whole bunch of times, and I’ve been at this same podium, and I ain’t have no smile. So it’s good to come in here and smile.”

For years, the Denver Broncos could not beat the Patrick Mahomes-led Chiefs with Von Miller at this stadium, but on Sunday, the Bills would not have won without him. The marriage has helped form the team that is intentionally and blatantly built to beat the Chiefs, future ramifications be damned. But with a payoff. The Chiefs are no longer the best team in the NFL — a home defeat did not produce that statement, but rather cemented it. That title belongs to the Bills now, and for evidence, don’t look at the fact they won, but rather how they won.

Josh Allen was nails on the game-winning two-minute drill, which absorbed the kind of inevitability Patrick Mahomes has so often delivered others. But Allen was nails last time the Bills visited Kansas City. The difference this time? Their defense got the stop it could not get here in January. That was Miller’s doing, and it’s the reason the Bills felt comfortable paying a 33-year-old edge rusher $45 million guaranteed this summer, even if it means he will still be eating up cap space at age 37.

The final impact play reads as a Mahomes interception into the arms of Bills cornerback Taron Johnson, but Miller wrecked the play with pressure inside the edge of right tackle Andrew Wylie, forcing Mahomes into a throwing window he did not plan.

One drive earlier, Miller sacked Mahomes to end a drive the Chiefs would also like back. He is a difference-maker on a team that spent an offseason knowing it was 13 seconds shy of beating the Chiefs in January — heck, knowing it has spent the last two summers with a lot of time to dwell on the Kansas City Chiefs.

That’s the way it works now. The title of best-team-in-football will change course over the next decade, with the Chiefs glued to that mix, but the Patrick Mahomes Era will always include a general manager out there somewhere, constructing the blueprint of a roster to take him out, even if it means sacrificing part of his future to do it. The Bills are this year’s version, and maybe next year’s version, and maybe the version over the next few years.

But for the duration of Mahomes’ 10-year contract, there will be others. This is a new norm, a new reality confronting the Chiefs that is more complimentary than it appears on the face of it. The Bills do not care if Miller’s contract puts them in cap hell in two years, when he’s 35 and earns $22 million — he is the over-the-top addition to win games like the one they won Sunday. Or to win the exact game they won Sunday. And it worked. But barely.

It’s a weird spin to put a moral victory on a Mahomes loss — the Chiefs are not some sort of lovable underdogs, even if they were underdogs on this field Sunday for the first time in Mahomes’ career. While that’s not the intention, not all losses are created equally.

Three weeks ago in Indianapolis, the Chiefs looked capable of losing to just about anybody. On Sunday, the team that has eyed them for two offseasons with all resources on deck needed a lot of things to go right in the fourth quarter. This felt like a coin-toss game — though not quite as literally as last time.

The Chiefs are certainly not miles away, even after implementing an inverse offseason strategy, extending their championship window at the expense of a short-term hit. The gap between the Bills and Chiefs appears more razor-thin than I anticipated, and if you don’t expect they’ll get another shot, I’d like to see which team you think will get that shot at the Bills in the postseason.

“I think you just want to win, just because you’re a competitor and you know you’re playing the best of the best — and you feel like you’re the best of the best,” Mahomes said. “You wanna win those games. “At the end of the day, that’s something you gotta reiterate to the guys in the locker room — it’s one game in the regular season that you wanted to win, felt like you could win and you didn’t. So how are you going to respond?” The broader point is this: If you felt like the Chiefs could win the Super Bowl before Sunday, and count me on that list, why would a late interception do anything to change that?

The reverberation of the outcome is not that the Chiefs can no longer accomplish everything on their preseason goals list — rather, it’s that for the first time since Mahomes became the franchise quarterback, he might need to go on the road to accomplish them. The Bills have a leg up on the race for homefield.

But otherwise, nobody needs a reminder that the Chiefs lost this same game, which arrived in similar timing on the schedule, just a year ago. In a much worse fashion, to boot. And then they won the rematch. A lot can happen between now and the time the playoffs arrive — three months can resemble a lifetime in football — so a rematch is not guaranteed. But there’s not another team in the AFC that belonged on the field with either of these teams. There is, however, a key difference if they do meet again — a difference that could become more convention, less abnormal.

They’ll be the underdogs.

Read more at: https://www.kansascity.com/sports/sp...#storylink=cpy

[Best22]

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan

The new reality is we no longer have "the guy" at QB in the NFL.

Buffalo does.

For the first time in the Mahomes Era, we will have to find a way to beat a team in the playoffs that has an advantage over us at the QB position.

It's going to be a tall task for Reid, and I'm afraid we are lacking the personnel around Mahomes to help push him above Allen.

There's a long way to go until January though.

Who is “the guy” at QB?

The QB who just won back to back MVPs and maintained a touchdown to interception ratio of 85-9 in two seasons? That guy didn’t even make a SB

There’s alot of great QBs in the NFL. What makes someone “the guy?”

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan

The new reality is we no longer have "the guy" at QB in the NFL.

Buffalo does.

For the first time in the Mahomes Era, we will have to find a way to beat a team in the playoffs that has an advantage over us at the QB position.

It's going to be a tall task for Reid, and I'm afraid we are lacking the personnel around Mahomes to help push him above Allen.

There's a long way to go until January though.

You are such a pussy it's incredible. Kill your dumb self

[Jewish Rabbi]

Originally Posted by LongSufferingToady

Von Miller walked behind the lectern inside the tight quarters of a room reserved for a Bills news conference, less than half an hour after his team beat the Chiefs here at Arrowhead Stadium. He began with an opening statement, of sorts. “Howdy,” he said, and then he offered a grin. “I came in this stadium a whole bunch of times, and I’ve been at this same podium, and I ain’t have no smile. So it’s good to come in here and smile.”

For years, the Denver Broncos could not beat the Patrick Mahomes-led Chiefs with Von Miller at this stadium, but on Sunday, the Bills would not have won without him. The marriage has helped form the team that is intentionally and blatantly built to beat the Chiefs, future ramifications be damned. But with a payoff. The Chiefs are no longer the best team in the NFL — a home defeat did not produce that statement, but rather cemented it. That title belongs to the Bills now, and for evidence, don’t look at the fact they won, but rather how they won.

Josh Allen was nails on the game-winning two-minute drill, which absorbed the kind of inevitability Patrick Mahomes has so often delivered others. But Allen was nails last time the Bills visited Kansas City. The difference this time? Their defense got the stop it could not get here in January. That was Miller’s doing, and it’s the reason the Bills felt comfortable paying a 33-year-old edge rusher $45 million guaranteed this summer, even if it means he will still be eating up cap space at age 37.

The final impact play reads as a Mahomes interception into the arms of Bills cornerback Taron Johnson, but Miller wrecked the play with pressure inside the edge of right tackle Andrew Wylie, forcing Mahomes into a throwing window he did not plan.

One drive earlier, Miller sacked Mahomes to end a drive the Chiefs would also like back. He is a difference-maker on a team that spent an offseason knowing it was 13 seconds shy of beating the Chiefs in January — heck, knowing it has spent the last two summers with a lot of time to dwell on the Kansas City Chiefs.

That’s the way it works now. The title of best-team-in-football will change course over the next decade, with the Chiefs glued to that mix, but the Patrick Mahomes Era will always include a general manager out there somewhere, constructing the blueprint of a roster to take him out, even if it means sacrificing part of his future to do it. The Bills are this year’s version, and maybe next year’s version, and maybe the version over the next few years.

But for the duration of Mahomes’ 10-year contract, there will be others. This is a new norm, a new reality confronting the Chiefs that is more complimentary than it appears on the face of it. The Bills do not care if Miller’s contract puts them in cap hell in two years, when he’s 35 and earns $22 million — he is the over-the-top addition to win games like the one they won Sunday. Or to win the exact game they won Sunday. And it worked. But barely.

It’s a weird spin to put a moral victory on a Mahomes loss — the Chiefs are not some sort of lovable underdogs, even if they were underdogs on this field Sunday for the first time in Mahomes’ career. While that’s not the intention, not all losses are created equally.

Three weeks ago in Indianapolis, the Chiefs looked capable of losing to just about anybody. On Sunday, the team that has eyed them for two offseasons with all resources on deck needed a lot of things to go right in the fourth quarter. This felt like a coin-toss game — though not quite as literally as last time.

The Chiefs are certainly not miles away, even after implementing an inverse offseason strategy, extending their championship window at the expense of a short-term hit. The gap between the Bills and Chiefs appears more razor-thin than I anticipated, and if you don’t expect they’ll get another shot, I’d like to see which team you think will get that shot at the Bills in the postseason.

“I think you just want to win, just because you’re a competitor and you know you’re playing the best of the best — and you feel like you’re the best of the best,” Mahomes said. “You wanna win those games. “At the end of the day, that’s something you gotta reiterate to the guys in the locker room — it’s one game in the regular season that you wanted to win, felt like you could win and you didn’t. So how are you going to respond?” The broader point is this: If you felt like the Chiefs could win the Super Bowl before Sunday, and count me on that list, why would a late interception do anything to change that?

The reverberation of the outcome is not that the Chiefs can no longer accomplish everything on their preseason goals list — rather, it’s that for the first time since Mahomes became the franchise quarterback, he might need to go on the road to accomplish them. The Bills have a leg up on the race for homefield.

But otherwise, nobody needs a reminder that the Chiefs lost this same game, which arrived in similar timing on the schedule, just a year ago. In a much worse fashion, to boot. And then they won the rematch. A lot can happen between now and the time the playoffs arrive — three months can resemble a lifetime in football — so a rematch is not guaranteed. But there’s not another team in the AFC that belonged on the field with either of these teams. There is, however, a key difference if they do meet again — a difference that could become more convention, less abnormal.

They’ll be the underdogs.

Read more at: https://www.kansascity.com/sports/sp...#storylink=cpy

Can’t say I agree with everything in here TBH

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Best22

Who is “the guy” at QB?

The QB who just won back to back MVPs and maintained a touchdown to interception ratio of 85-9 in two seasons? That guy didn’t even make a SB

There’s alot of great QBs in the NFL. What makes someone “the guy?”

You'll have to follow up in another thread.... I grew tired of reading what I have to assume is trolly bullshit in every ****ing thread.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

It's just one game. Not sure it's the 'turning point' of the Chiefs trajectory. At all.

I'm reminded of when the Pats got gangraped by a Alex Smith led Chiefs team a few years ago, the Pats were stumbling out of the gate and all the talking heads went nuts talking about how the Patriots dynasty was certainly over. And of course, everyone bought that shit. And Bill came out with what is now a gif: "we're on to CLE," or whatever team he said.

We lost a game to a great team.

With a Chiefs team that literally rebuilt the entire WR room excepting Hardman, had to replace a pair of All-Pro OTs, and replaced about half the starting defense. Never mind the injuries and the lack of Willie Gay due to suspension that hobbled the defense for this particular game.

It's really going to be okay. We lost by four points to the number 1 scoring offense in the league, so obviously the defense is better than just average, because BUF regularly puts 30+ on the 'average' NFL defense this season. And the offense is coming together as well, seeing as how the Chiefs are a top-5 offense through six weeks.

I've said over and over, and others have as well, that it was always going to take some time for the team to become everything they could be. I said about 9-11 weeks. Others thought whatever they thought about the exact timing. Whatever.

The point is that this team today is not the same team that will be taking the field in two months. According to the Chiefs' own recent history in the Andy Reid/Brett Veach era, the team will steadily improve and be significantly better on both sides of the ball by December. And go to the AFCCG for the fifth consecutive time.

Until that changes, I just don't believe anything has really changed, much less the trajectory of the Chiefs.

Both the Chiefs and Bills will improve and add injured players back as the year goes on but the Buffalo team last night is closer to their final form than we are.

Will we be able to pass them before the playoffs? No guarantees but it is possible. I also hope this lights a fire under Veach not to write this year off as a rebuild but to add a piece or two if they make sense.

Buffalo's team has way more veterans and consistency from last few years. Chiefs reloaded for youth and we are changing a lot on both sides of the ball.

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

ready for the jets to wake these clowns up

Bills will beat the Jets into oblivion.


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[Pablo]

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan

The new reality is we no longer have "the guy" at QB in the NFL.

Buffalo does.

For the first time in the Mahomes Era, we will have to find a way to beat a team in the playoffs that has an advantage over us at the QB position.

It's going to be a tall task for Reid, and I'm afraid we are lacking the personnel around Mahomes to help push him above Allen.

There's a long way to go until January though.

This is what happens when a mutt watches football. They're just conditioned to think and accept that they deserve the worst. Kinda sad. Mostly stupid.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by LongSufferingToady

Von Miller walked behind the lectern inside the tight quarters of a room reserved for a Bills news conference, less than half an hour after his team beat the Chiefs here at Arrowhead Stadium. He began with an opening statement, of sorts. “Howdy,” he said, and then he offered a grin. “I came in this stadium a whole bunch of times, and I’ve been at this same podium, and I ain’t have no smile. So it’s good to come in here and smile.”

For years, the Denver Broncos could not beat the Patrick Mahomes-led Chiefs with Von Miller at this stadium, but on Sunday, the Bills would not have won without him. The marriage has helped form the team that is intentionally and blatantly built to beat the Chiefs, future ramifications be damned. But with a payoff. The Chiefs are no longer the best team in the NFL — a home defeat did not produce that statement, but rather cemented it. That title belongs to the Bills now, and for evidence, don’t look at the fact they won, but rather how they won.

Josh Allen was nails on the game-winning two-minute drill, which absorbed the kind of inevitability Patrick Mahomes has so often delivered others. But Allen was nails last time the Bills visited Kansas City. The difference this time? Their defense got the stop it could not get here in January. That was Miller’s doing, and it’s the reason the Bills felt comfortable paying a 33-year-old edge rusher $45 million guaranteed this summer, even if it means he will still be eating up cap space at age 37.

The final impact play reads as a Mahomes interception into the arms of Bills cornerback Taron Johnson, but Miller wrecked the play with pressure inside the edge of right tackle Andrew Wylie, forcing Mahomes into a throwing window he did not plan.

One drive earlier, Miller sacked Mahomes to end a drive the Chiefs would also like back. He is a difference-maker on a team that spent an offseason knowing it was 13 seconds shy of beating the Chiefs in January — heck, knowing it has spent the last two summers with a lot of time to dwell on the Kansas City Chiefs.

That’s the way it works now. The title of best-team-in-football will change course over the next decade, with the Chiefs glued to that mix, but the Patrick Mahomes Era will always include a general manager out there somewhere, constructing the blueprint of a roster to take him out, even if it means sacrificing part of his future to do it. The Bills are this year’s version, and maybe next year’s version, and maybe the version over the next few years.

But for the duration of Mahomes’ 10-year contract, there will be others. This is a new norm, a new reality confronting the Chiefs that is more complimentary than it appears on the face of it. The Bills do not care if Miller’s contract puts them in cap hell in two years, when he’s 35 and earns $22 million — he is the over-the-top addition to win games like the one they won Sunday. Or to win the exact game they won Sunday. And it worked. But barely.

It’s a weird spin to put a moral victory on a Mahomes loss — the Chiefs are not some sort of lovable underdogs, even if they were underdogs on this field Sunday for the first time in Mahomes’ career. While that’s not the intention, not all losses are created equally.

Three weeks ago in Indianapolis, the Chiefs looked capable of losing to just about anybody. On Sunday, the team that has eyed them for two offseasons with all resources on deck needed a lot of things to go right in the fourth quarter. This felt like a coin-toss game — though not quite as literally as last time.

The Chiefs are certainly not miles away, even after implementing an inverse offseason strategy, extending their championship window at the expense of a short-term hit. The gap between the Bills and Chiefs appears more razor-thin than I anticipated, and if you don’t expect they’ll get another shot, I’d like to see which team you think will get that shot at the Bills in the postseason.

“I think you just want to win, just because you’re a competitor and you know you’re playing the best of the best — and you feel like you’re the best of the best,” Mahomes said. “You wanna win those games. “At the end of the day, that’s something you gotta reiterate to the guys in the locker room — it’s one game in the regular season that you wanted to win, felt like you could win and you didn’t. So how are you going to respond?” The broader point is this: If you felt like the Chiefs could win the Super Bowl before Sunday, and count me on that list, why would a late interception do anything to change that?

The reverberation of the outcome is not that the Chiefs can no longer accomplish everything on their preseason goals list — rather, it’s that for the first time since Mahomes became the franchise quarterback, he might need to go on the road to accomplish them. The Bills have a leg up on the race for homefield.

But otherwise, nobody needs a reminder that the Chiefs lost this same game, which arrived in similar timing on the schedule, just a year ago. In a much worse fashion, to boot. And then they won the rematch. A lot can happen between now and the time the playoffs arrive — three months can resemble a lifetime in football — so a rematch is not guaranteed. But there’s not another team in the AFC that belonged on the field with either of these teams. There is, however, a key difference if they do meet again — a difference that could become more convention, less abnormal.

They’ll be the underdogs.

Read more at: https://www.kansascity.com/sports/sp...#storylink=cpy

Thx

[FloridaMan88]

How is this different or worse than last year’s Buffalo regular season win… when the Chiefs were 2-3 and Buffalo was 4-1?

[raybec 4]

This was the toughest game on the schedule and they played it very close. 3 defensive starters missing, a few questionable penalties, 7th and 4th round rookie starting corners and a couple of WTF throws from Mahomes. It's easy to see that they'll get some of those things cleaned up and frankly the schedule gets much softer for the Chiefs (based on the first 6 weeks results) than it does for the Bills going forward. No one reasonable looked at the 1st 6 weeks and felt much better than 4-2 if they were being honest.

[crayzkirk]

Who reads that wall of text and who cares anyways? It's a football game and both teams had chances. The Chiefs need some help on both lines. Even with everything that went wrong, the Chiefs had three chances to either put the game way or win it in the end. It doesn't happen every time.

We get it, the Bills have an exceptional team and a good quarterback. To say that this is a 'passing of the torch' moment seems a bit soon.

I'll take my chances with Patrick and the Chiefs on any given Sunday...

[RealSNR]

Ten bucks says KC hosts the Arrowhead Invitational again this year

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan

The new reality is we no longer have "the guy" at QB in the NFL.

Buffalo does.

For the first time in the Mahomes Era, we will have to find a way to beat a team in the playoffs that has an advantage over us at the QB position.

It's going to be a tall task for Reid, and I'm afraid we are lacking the personnel around Mahomes to help push him above Allen.

There's a long way to go until January though.

1. Shove shotgun barrel up your ass
2. Pull the trigger
3. Profit

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

How is this different or worse than last year’s Buffalo regular season win… when the Chiefs were 2-3 and Buffalo was 4-1?

It’s actually better.


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[chiefzilla1501]

The Chiefs are not in a rebuild. They got blindsighted by Tyreek leaving at the very last minute. They would've been incredible otherwise. They're still really damn good and did fine against an elite defense. The LT situation isn't ideal, but they'll get way better at RB and WR by season's end. And I'd hope they're not even close to done yet and am not ruling out Veach pulling something off by mid-season. But at the very least CEH and Hardman will hopfeully have a lesser role when we play them again.

The Bills are at their peak. They're loading up for this to be their year, and we still barely lost to them in a regular season contest.

Meanwhile, the Chiefs did an admirable job building a young pipeline of talent. No guarantee Buffalo can once Allen's contract kicks in. Mahomes is learning right now the skills to play QB for the next decade whereas Josh Allen will eventually have to adjust his style to take less hits. Still incredibly thrilled with where our team is.